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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 12-05-2013, 06:55 AM Thread Starter
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Nano Scape - "Natural Log Hedge"

Hello! This is going to be my 1st tank log, but my 2.5th planted tank (my 55 was de-planted by two fantastic Silver Dollars). Here we go! As we go along, Iíll be adding pictures to this post, as well as putting them in the thread, so that should be pretty convenient for anyone following along.

The tank is a 5 gallon Fluval Chi, itís 10Ēx10Ē, with a 12Ē height. It has between 2.5Ē and 4Ē of substrate depending on the part of the tank, consisting of 1.5Ē of sifted dirt with added stuff and capped with pool filter sand.

Some people also might enjoy periodical pictures of my 20Long, but probably not, Iím no Tom Barr after all.

This is about the 8th revision of the ďhardscape,Ē as itís been sitting on my desk with substrate for a few weeks, and I think Iíve settled on this one. As you can probably tell by the lack of an actual hardscape this is going to be a Dutch tank! YaY.

The first few weeks/months will be extremely boring, because Iím going to do a DSM. I donít think itís really necessary for such a small tank, but:
1) Emmersed aquatic plants fascinate me
2) I donít want to buy allot of plants to begin with
3) Iím not sure which species Iím going to stock this with!

Iíll probably go with a species of plant spawning killifish and let them do their thing, and maybe some Bee shrimp or Malawi's depending on the requirements of the Killies. This is going to be my specialist tank, so Iím going to avoid all types of ďnuisanceĒ snails, inverts, and plants (yes, this includes my beloved MTS and U.Gibba).

The plants should arrive tomorrow sometime, and theyíll be planted by tomorrow night. So far the plant list is:
Ammania senegalensis
Lindernia rotundifolia
Rotala 'bangladesh'
Rotala sp. Pearl Type I
And of course a small carpet of HC Cuba

I wanted to try my hand at less common plants, so this should be a great start. Wish me luck! Any comments, questions, suggestions, or helpful DSM tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Tank timeline go!



Initial Planting (Post #4)


New Angle and New growth (Post#9)


A Series of Unfortunate Events (Post #13)


Flooded (Post #14)


A New Friend and a bit of Growth (Post #17)

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Got it (mostly) planted!

From left to right:
Lindernia rotundifolia
Rotala Pearl Type I
Rotala Bangladesh
all surrounded by Ammania Senegalensis.

I'll be adding rows of A. Sengalensis as it grows out to separate the Rotalas and Lindernia, as well as to fill in that upper corner.

Eventualy I'll pick up some HC for the foreground, but this seems like a fair start!
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Looks neat! I always wonder how finder substrate mounded up like will hold up in the long run... Will the plant roots be enough to hold it up or do you have something supporting the "hill"? I think sand especially will want to level itself out over time, current in the water will help with that also.
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Wow, love the contrast of the bright red/hot pinks and the greens.
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Thanks for your comments! I just hope it stays that way

I don't think the substrate hill will fall too much because of how well planted it will be, but hopefully it won't matter much. One of my goals is to completely hide the substrate from view with a bush of well organized plants.

I did realize that my substrate not being level could be a problem with the DSM, so I put the tank on a pretty severe incline, which should help with that.

I'm seeing a little bit of new growth on the A. Senegalensis and the R. Pearl. The R. Bangladesh seems to be perking up, but the L. Rotundifolia seems to be pretty stagnant, I'm not sure if that's a problem, but we'll see in the coming days.

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New growth is on the R. Bangladesh! YaY!
The Rotundifolia is the same, still green, but not growing and not changing at all. Literally I'm getting NOTHING. Am I doing something wrong for this particular plant? I may be over-eager, but I was expecting it to do something since everything else has so far.

Better pics to come this evening.

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Time Travel! *Doo Wee Ooo*

So now that it's the evening. Here are some pictures for anyone who wants to pay attention! It's been slow, but it seems like there is success being had to some degree. Each species now shows some amount of new growth.

Here you go friends, some close up-ish pics of each plant as it stands. I even uprooted one of the A. Senegalensis plants that seemed to be doing badly, only to find that it had sprouted several new roots!
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Waiting for the plants to grow.... Yes....... Someone say something!

Rescaped my 20Long a couple days ago, I tried something Iwagumi. I'm pretty happy with it, I'm always looking to do something differently than other people, and the light sand/light rocks work well together.

After Christmas It will be allot cleaner plumbing wise, getting a proper drilled overflow and pressurized CO2!

The First picture is "Before" (I had already taken out one chunk of Montevidensis from the right pot thing, the roots loved the deep substrate, but the leaves didn't like the shallow water), and the second is the After shot. You can even see the reflection of the 5G in the glass, ha!
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Plant's haven't escaped the tank, so that's good. They're all growing well, most have doubled in size since planting.

Picked up a large C. multidentata for the 20Long for $2.40 today, which is awesome. It was the last one, and I think it had been left there from a special order several months ago.

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I moved the tank to the garage and did a 24 hour light cycle experiment. It's been about 3 days, and I'm fairly certain that the plants have been growing quite a bit. Unfortunately it seems like the R. Pearl absolutely does not like 24 hour lighting! I mean it's just tanked, from growing faster than anything it looks pretty dead now.

It was a risk I was willing to take, and I'm sure that after a few days of 18/6 it will spring back to life. Pictures to follow.

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Ok, so I actually completely forgot to put the pictures up of the pre-flood near disaster, but here they are.

I don't believe it was a fungus issue, mostly because I didn't see any thing and it litteraly appeared overnight. I personally think it was a result of rapidly fluctuating temperatures, however it is possible that this could have come from a few (like 3) days of a 24 hour photoperiod.
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So here are current pictures of the tank. It's been flooded since December 23, 2013, and everything is making a comeback from the DSM failure. The R.Pear still looks 99% dead (there's a little sprig that retained it's color), but I'm banking on all of the dead matter melting off and getting replaced. It was doing great up until the misjudgment.

The tank is filled with RO water, and is being filtered by a HOB that I think was meant for a 10g tank. I'm currently dosing ~80mg of KNO3 daily, mostly because I've noticed a nitrate deficiency in my 20 Long (also RO water with a very small bioload). One thing that I do need as soon as possible is a CO2 system, some of the minor deformities in the leaves are probably a result of high light/not enough co2. I might be forced to use DIY if I don't get one within the next couple of weeks. I've been looking fast and hard for a 20lb tank locally, but they're hard to come by, and most of them are really sketchy (there are only three hobbies that use large tanks of pressurized CO2, one of them is illegal.)

The tank is cycled at this point, which is really surprising, so I may get a betta or something to keep me company/maintain the cycle for a few months until I'm happy enough with the scape to get a proper group of fish (I'm thinking some Dario Dario and a couple Hara Jerdoni later on).
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How did it cycle so quickly did you add an ammonia source?
Also are you remineralizing your RO water to add back some KH/GH and are you dosing other ferts besides nitrates?
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