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post #31 of 70 (permalink) Old 10-24-2013, 08:57 PM Thread Starter
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Checked the parameters for the first time today, not happy with a couple things...

pH - 7.5 *
TDS - 70 **
Ammonia - 2-4PPM ***
Nitrate - 0
Nitrite - 0
GH - 2
KH - 1

* So, whats up with my aqua soil?! Doesnt seem to be buffering down, ive only done (2) 5gal water changes... ?!?!?!

** Is this something I overlooked? Im thinking I need to buy some TDS Up, for some reason I thought the GH+ took care of the tds also?!

*** #EverydayImCycling lol the color is between 2.0-4.0 ppm.

FTS as of today (Thoughts/comments/concerns?)

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Is your pH test liquid or strips?
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post #34 of 70 (permalink) Old 10-24-2013, 11:32 PM
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my api pH liquid test kit was doing the same thing in my tank with aquasoil, it is weird...

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I had this problem a month ago when I bough amazonia. I think ADA has bad batches IMO.

My tank has no lowering affect on RO/Tap water that I had to buy fluval peat.
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Water cleared up overnight somehow.. ammonia is now at .5 or so... ill text next weekend and maybe order some shrimps


Looks lik3 I need peat and tds up
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What I measured in a 5L casserole that I use to prepare the water for a w/c:

- RO water (TDS: 005ppm)
- After remineralizing to gH 5 = TDS 140ppm
- After remineralizing to gH 8-9 = TDS 250ppm

You have gH 2 and TDS 070ppm, looks like normal to me. Of course, there's no relationship between the two as you can have other stuff in the water besides Ca&Mg to cause a high TDS reading.

You can also use CO2 to lower pH. Provided that you don't go overboard and cause a pH crash or gas the shrimp. I'm putting CO2 but also have surface agitation. Gas exchange is pretty good. I have a higher pH reading than yours. It's somewhere around 8.3 - 8.4. With CO2 I managed to bring it down to 7.2

Don't know about ADA soils or how they are supposed to lower pH. The only way I know you can bring it down is to put some form of acid in the water (organic or inorganic).
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What remineralizerr u using??

I am trying to keep crs, so a gh of 8-9 wont be acceptable...

Recommended: "PH: 6.2 – 6.6 KH: 0 – 2 GH: 4 – 6 TDS: 100 – 180"


Ah! So why is my gh lower than it should be? Im guessing if I can bump up the gh the tds WILL raise, so I was right in thinking it would raise tds. I use RO water and remin with Satly Shrimp gh+, I follow the directions and test my 5 gal jug which comes out right...

And theres freakin fleas already somehow... oh well. Added more floaters, got some good root systems in there now..

The tank looks completely different from the pictures now. I can see everything clearly like the first day. I just tested again and its at about .5-1 ammonia. WAY lighter green than the last test. I am def. going to retest maybe wed. and the next weekend
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Don't know who is putting out those numbers. Recommended for what? I'm keeping CRS for about a month now in gH close to 18. Due to my mistake in dosage and one expired gH test.

They're doing fine. It's hard to count them all but they grew a lot since I got them. Don't know if they will breed in such high hardness but they surely live quite happily.

I'm slowly lowering hardness now.

I'm using off the shelf stuff to remineralize since there's no LFS selling shrimp products in my country. I'm not comfortable to order products over the internet just to put some labeled epsom salt + gypsum mix in the water. I don't do many pictures with the cans and bags of products I buy

One really good product that's worth the money and shrimp go nuts over it is cyclop eeze. Get that stuff! It's the only stuff I managed to find in an LFS, way overdue it's warranty. Still works

My "remineralizer" recipe is as follows:

- 1 part epsom salt = Mg
- 2 parts gypsum (CaSO4) = Ca
- 1 part dehumidifier refill (CaCl) = Ca
- 1 part JBL Aquadur (it's a hardness corrector for cichlids) = Mg+Ca+Trace (optional)
- 1 part montmorillonite (green clay) = Trace
- 1 part blue clay (local product sold in naturist shop as purifying clay (snake oil)) = Trace

1 part could be a tea spoon or a bucket. Although I use a small dosing spoon from the SW food. It's really small.

That's about it.
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Shrimpery says

Temp: 68-74F
pH: 6.0-6.6
TDS: 80-180
KH: 0-2
GH: 4-6

And for that exact reason, they can live in gh 18, but that doesnt mean they will be happy and reproduce in those conditions...

Is cyclop eeze food? Thats what im finding on google..

Once I run out of my remin I may try yours out, just depends on how easy those things are to find
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Epsom salt is sold at the human or vet pharmacy.
Gypsum or "plaster of paris" is used for molds and various wall repair mixtures.
I use this as a Calcium Chloride source. Needs to be kept in a sealed container as it draws moisture from the air.
I found montmorillonite packaged as green clay at a naturist shop. It's used as a facial mask to remove fat deposits from skin.

Yeah, cyclop-eeze it's food. It has lots of astaxanthine which is overall a good substance to have. Also improves color. Look it up.
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Will do!

Its been 1 month since flood today, ammonia tested at 1ppm :/ Oh well at least its not cloudy anymore

Did I say I started dosing liquid co2? I have. lol
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Half panoramic shot after dosing the tank with some API quick start



for a low level shrimp nerd like myself, id say I keep a good stock of things I need for my planted tanks

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are you remineralizing every time you add water?

I find what works for me is to only remineralize when doing LARGE 50% or more water changes. Any other time its pure RO water.

otherwise. looks good. curious to see how things progress for you!
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