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post #1 of 261 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 04:52 AM Thread Starter
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Joey's Mr. Aqua 17.4 Dutch

Well, I'll give a little background info about this project.

My fish keeping started about 2 years ago. I had a betta in a 2.5 gallon petco tank, then I upgraded to a 5 gallon. Over the course of 3 months, it went high tech. Like many others, I had envisioned a carpet of HC, and was completely unsure of how to do it. 3 months, 200 some dollars later, I have that HC carpet. My dad finally gave in and allowed me to get a larger tank. I knew I wanted the 60P but didn't want to throw out the money for it, so I ended up with the Mr. Aqua counterpart. I am planning on a Dutch layout with many different textures, colors, and leaf shapes.
I have come up with this list through the help of many on the Aquarium Advice forum. Weather they know it or not

Stand: Unfinished wall cabinet that I painted the same color as the walls in my room. Perfect dimensions for the tank and makes for a great stand.


Hard Goods:
Tank: Mr. Aqua 17.4 (will be delivered on the 1st
Filter: Eheim 2215 Classic through Glass Lily Pipes (will be delivered on the 31st)
Light: Aquaticlife 2 bulb T5HO (will be delivered on the 30th)
Co2: UP Aqua Reg, 24oz PB Tank (may go to a 5lb when I get the money. I'm 15. I don't have much. Haha) Do! Aqua difffuser
Substrate: Floramax
Heater: Tetra HT-10, eventual Hydor ETH

Ferts:
PPS-Pro
Excel
Kent RO Right

Stock:
1 German Blue Ram
10 Chili Rasbora
5 Neon Tetra
2otos

Plant List:
Ludwigia Arcuata
Ludwigia Inclinata var. Verticillata
Ludwigia Inclinata sp. Curly/Tornado
Ludwigia Glandulosa
Rotala Macrandra
Rotala Wallichi
Rotala Mini Butterfly
Alternanthera Reneckii
Alternanthera Reneckii 'mini'
Blyxa Japonica
Pogostemon Helferi
Staurogyne Repens 049
HC
Syngonanthus Belem (possibly)



I will post pics as things come in, and I'm on my iPad, and can't quite figure out how. Advice will be appreciated, and suggestions for flora and fauna are always welcome

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post #2 of 261 (permalink) Old 07-28-2013, 12:32 PM
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That looks to have a lot of possibility. The only thing I can see right now is your plant list looks pretty extensive. With that many species you're not going to be able to get the large groups most Dutch tanks are known for. It looks like a fantastic list for starting a new tank then choosing which species you want most though. Some of those plants get really big too; possibly too big for a 60P. Just something to think about, it never hurts to try though! Looking forward to seeing the pics.

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I see you're located in PA, too! I know, I know. Haha. I go overboard. I'm going to narrow it down and probably eliminate the Syngonanthus sp. Belem, AR mini, Rotala Mini Butterfly, and Ludwigia sp. Tornado because of availability. The plants I can't use will go to my other tank. I might end up throwing the Ludwigia Arcuata just because of the leaf similarity of that and others.

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Ill actually be right near you today! I'm going to knoebels.

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For those that are following, I doubt many. Haha. I have a fairly large update. I got a lot of things in the mail. It's like Christmas time, what can I say? I hope to have this flooded and planted in the next two weeks. I decided to get aquasoil, too. I wanted to try it really bad.

Things I got:
Pump Bottles for Dosing ferts
Aquatic Life T5HO Dual Fixture
Mr. Aqua 17.4 Gallon Rimless
Eheim 2215 Classic
Texas Select Driftwood
Manten Stone
Aquasoil Amazonia
Do! Aqua Diffuser

Revised Plant List:

Rotala Macrandra
Rotala Wallichi
HC
Pogostemon Helferi
Ludwigia inclinata var. Pantal
Ludwigia sp. Red
Ludwigia sp. Curly/Tornado
Tonina sp. Lotus Blossom
Syngonanthus sp. Belem (maybe)

Revised Stock List:

1 German Blue Ram
10 Chili Rasboras
2 Otos
Nerites

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Oops. This too.
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looks nice, looking forward to some plants and a scape.
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Thanks. Ordering plants in a week so it shouldn't be too long.

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Very cool, should be great. I really like the pro-looking fert bottles.
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@Jack Thanks alot. I like to "look" professional. Haha. I'm super excited.

Update:
I got the Aquasoil in, and since it's a Dutch scape, the hard scape won't play a role, really.
I ordered some plants from Bartohog and they should be here Wednesday. I have to admit, this guy is awesome and really makes you feel like you're getting a deal.

I ordered:
Rotala sp. Colorata
Rotala sp. Green
Rotala Macrandra
Ludwigia sp. Red
Ludwigia inclinata var. Panatal
Ludwigia sp. Curly/Tornado
Ammania sp. Bonsai
Hudrocotyle sp. Japan

I'm also going to run out to Petsmart for some Downoi unless someone has some for super cheap because you get about 50 crowns for 8$.

Ill update on Wednesday when my plants come.

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whoa!!

My plants will feel honored to be in this setup of yours!
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Update Time!

Ok so it has been three weeks since it has been filled. Things are coming along well. No real algae yet. I added three harlequin Rasboras and a peacock Gudgeon to my stock of 3 neons and a peppered Cory. My Ludwigia sp. Red leaves keep dropping. I saw someone else had this problem and I don't know what's causing it. My Macrandra leaves are curling a little. Anyone that can help me with this?? Don't know about that yet. I can't add anymore co2 to the tank without having my Rasboras gasp. The neons don't gasp though. Everything is coming along ok.

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I still want some Downoi but for some reason we are still getting some high temps. Don't want to risk it. Ill shoot you a pm when it cools more.

Now for pics!

Please excuse the rock. It's just to hold down the DW. I would have thought it would have sunk by now. Guess not.


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Thanks! I'm going to start dry dosing EI because I'm noticing things that are either co2 or nutrient deficiencies. I can't turn up my co2 any more so well see.

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Shots of some of the inhabitants. I need a camera other than my iPhone. Anyone have suggestions? Under 400$. This weekend I'm going to add to the stock. Final stocking plans are:
5 Harlequin Raboras
5 Neon Tetras
1 Oto
1 Peacock Gudgeon
1 German Blue Ram
5 more schooling fish. I need some suggestions!


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