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post #31 of 199 (permalink) Old 01-06-2007, 06:13 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, got everything hooked up tonight, lights finished and mounted. Once it looked like everything was assembled, I got several "rag" towels and a bucket (just in case of a leakage problem) and filled it up. No leaks whatsoever and thanks to my wife's help, I managed to get a pretty good, adjustable lighting hanging device using just a chain and eye bolts. Well, see for yourself...




Here's another shot before I added water:


I'm going to simply let it run for a couple days and watch the ph. I'll plan on moving the Co2 system over as soon as the Rhinox 2000 and Co2 tubing get here. I've never tried these ADA-like diffusers before (or any, really), so I'm very skeptical. I had good Co2 levels in my 20g with a PVC reactor I made. If this doesn't work out, I'm hooking that up. I'm on the home stretch now!

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Looking good!

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Pretty good start Ryan, You will need to make sure you get those kinks out of the lines and I know you will not want to hear this but the Rhinox 2000 will not be enough for a 75 you will need the 5k for that.
Looking forward to the updates on finalization.

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Oops, did I say Rhinox 2000? I actually have a Rhinox 5000 coming.
As for the kinks, those are all gone, thanks to some moving stuff around and usage of zip-ties. The filter has been running since last night and all seems well (no leaks). I can hook up Co2 as soon as the diffuser and tubing come in the mail....probably Mon or Tues.

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Just wanted to say thanks so much for making this mini "how-to". This is really going to be key in the planning and development of my planted 60g, thumbsup!
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**1/11/07 Update**

Well, I have pretty much everything I need now and the tank has been running for almost a week now. It has been lightly planted for a couple days now, so I've been dosing a little bit of No3 and Po4 although it doesn't have the Co2 hooked up yet, so I've just been running the 2x54w light for ~8 hrs and all of them come on for about 2 hrs in the afternoon. I'll change this a little as soon as Co2 is working.

Good news. The Rhinox 5000 came today and looks great. It's also thicker and of stronger glass quality than I expected. I think this will work out nicely.


**Filtration too low with just one Eheim 2026 running on a 90g? Yeah, I know. I just ordered a Rena Filstar XP3 last night, so that should arrive sometime next week. In the meantime, I'm going to borrow the dinky AC powerhead from my 20g. It's not much, but it's better than nothing. The 2026 and XP3 should provide enough flow, but just in case, I also ordered a Rio 600 powerhead. Cheap but probably works good enough. Here's a picture of my 20H as it is now, before the massacre. I will be taking most plants out of here to get the 90g started. After the fish move over, this tank is coming down. It's old and scratched, plus I have a brand new 25g in the garage(same footprint). Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet. Shrimp breeding tank for the large tank? Pay no attention to the gsa.

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**1/11/07 Update** (Cont.)

Here's the 90g as it sits now, before I start working. I'm hooking up the Co2, adding a powerhead to help circulate and PLANTING. I have the rest of the plants in my 20g, one gallon-sized bag of plants in the refrigerator and I also went to the LFS and bought some of their better looking plants. I didn't pay anything, since I just used some of the credit from my fish trade-in. I got:
2x large anubias barteri
1x large anubias nana
1 handful of riccia (never seen it at a LFS before. It was pristine quality)
2x java fern
a few plantlets of e. tenellus
red foxtail. i think its myriophyllum aquaticum or similar
crypotocoryne sp (I think it's willisii 'lucens')

Here is the tank as it is right now. I'll update again when it's finished. You'll see a lot of stem plants, but my aim is to remove some of them when the tank settles. I'll probably get a carpeting plant...not sure what it will be yet. I've had success with ET and glosso, but not really HC. Granted, this is a different tank. If I remember correctly, it likes aquasoil. I have fluorite in my other tank.


Again, more close up.

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I have a question what did you do with the substrate that are floating when you were adding water??
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Usually you can just "tap" floating aquasoil grains and they sink.

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That's exactly what I did. I actually didn't expect that as it was my first time using aquasoil.

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**1/15/07 Update**

So far, so good. I bought a few plants at the LFS (2 anubias barteri's, in particular) and moved things around a little bit yesterday. Co2 has been running, but I don't think its high enough yet. When I tested the ph (before Co2), it was ~6.4 due only to the wood and aquasoil. I need to make one of those drop checkers and/or see how the plants do in the next couple days.
Here's a few pictures I took today. I have a Rena XP3 coming to go with the 2026, but I stuck an Emperor 400 on the side yesterday to help clear it up in there. Times like this make me wish I had a diatom filter! It's better than it was though...

Plants laid out in the beginning:


Starting the planting:


The tank today (still a little cloudy):


Here's a close up of a few plants. Does anyone know what the thin, spider looking plants are in the middle?


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**Update**

1-22-07 update:

The Rena XP3 came on Friday and I hooked it up without any issues. It's not NEARLY as loud as some reviews were leading me to believe. It's not as quiet as the Eheim, but all I really hear is trickling water inside the filter. It's not even noticable under the stand with the doors shut, etc.

I also added the Rio 600 powerhead, along with my small Aquaclear 60 powerhead. This ended up being too much flow, so I removed the AC ph and may end up taking out the Rio ph as well. I was under the impression that I would need one to place above the Rhinox diffuser, in order to push the bubbles around. I'm starting to think, after reading other people's journals, that this isn't necessary if you have good current. I'm thinking that the Eheim 2026 and Rena XP3 may be enough by themselves. That is what I'll be trying when I do a water change/maintenance later tonight.

Here's a picture taken on Friday 1/19/07 after I finished hooking up the XP3:



The plants seem to be slowly recovering, although its still too soon to really tell. The good thing is, the water is a lot less cloudy (scroll up to compare with past picture).

Ah, and we can't forget my canine cheering squad. I think I caught him in the middle of a yawn or licking his lips.
Meet Ziggy, the German Shorthair (good hunting dog too):




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Help! Algae attacks!

Ok, I started to notice this last night and tonight its even worse. There is a good amount of gsa on the glass, as well as on some of the leaves and wood. I also think that gw may be developing. Previously, I was running 4x54w for ~12 hrs and 4-5 hrs of that was all 6x54w. Today, I just ran the 4x54w for 12 hrs ONLY. I guess I should back off of the lighting until the plants grow in more? I have some plants in my 20g that were leftovers, but I can move them over (some Moneywort, mayaca and hydrocotyle). I know the water flow is sufficient, although Co2 is a BIG guessing game right now. Currently, I have it running around 4-5 bubbles/sec. Since the aquasoil affects the ph, I can't even get a ballpark reading, so plants (and algae) are the only indicators. My guess is Co2 is too low.
How should I fix it? Simply turn up the needle valve? Or, consider an alternate way of injecting it? Or something else?

Here's a few pictures. Maybe this will help give you a better idea of what I'm looking at here:

Full tank on Monday, 1/22/07:


Close-up of gsa on hydrocotyle:


Close-up of Rhinox 5000 w/ Rio 600:


Similar to previous, but take a look at the algae-covered wood:


Hairgrass & HC seem to be doing ok. I'm sure if I ignored this for another day or two, that might change. Hairgrass is spreading a bit, but HC has yet to do so (but its not doing poorly either):


This is what I've been dosing:
Not much

I dosed about 30-35 mL of CSB+B solution a few days ago. I was told that with AS, you don't need to dose. I'm not sure if my situation is different since lighting is fairly high, or if Co2 is still the culprit.

What say you??
Up the Co2 and keep everything else the same? Or something else?

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Maybe turn your lights down from 12 hours to say 9 hours, Get some ottos, and amanos too
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'll down it to 9 hrs and I'll be going near a place that sells amanos on Saturday. Closest place to here = 1 1/2 hrs

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