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post #31 of 108 (permalink) Old 08-05-2013, 05:23 AM
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ham, love the 20 long. I'm setting one up myself and was thinking about going the dirt capped with eco complete route. Which type of eco complete did you use, and is it separated by mesh at all (I've seen that recommended)? What's the depth you used for each?

Has it given you any trouble? I've done the Miracle Gro Organic soil capped with PFS and it got messy at times. That's my main issue since I'm a pretty finicky planter and like to move things around. Just wondering if it's been a pain in terms of messiness, obviously it's doing very well in terms of growth which is why I'd like to see what you did to make it successful.
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Ive been looking around for these 3g longs but havent found them anywhere except online... Which is good i dont need another tank lol
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Looks good. I have an empty deep blue 3 gallon sitting around. Maybe now my bowl broke I should set it up. Are you using root tabs?
you have an empty tank sitting around? that wont last...

serious, its a great shrimp/fry/betta tank

yup, root tabs just under the marsilea

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ham, love the 20 long. I'm setting one up myself and was thinking about going the dirt capped with eco complete route. Which type of eco complete did you use, and is it separated by mesh at all (I've seen that recommended)? What's the depth you used for each?

Has it given you any trouble? I've done the Miracle Gro Organic soil capped with PFS and it got messy at times. That's my main issue since I'm a pretty finicky planter and like to move things around. Just wondering if it's been a pain in terms of messiness, obviously it's doing very well in terms of growth which is why I'd like to see what you did to make it successful.
Lord knows im the same way with moving things around. Just when Im happy with the looks i switch it all around. Even the wife gets pissed "why cant you stop messing around and just let things grow. Thats my new goal is to just let the plants do their thing

i did about 1 to 1.5 inches of the miracle grow with 1.5 - 2 inches of plain old eco black packed in the water. soil/miracle grow will always take a bit of finesse but my plants all grow with it. I dont think ill ever not use dirt unless i throw down the $$$ for aqua soil.

ive had more issues with mess in my 10 gallon with play sand. its so compact that the air pockets build up and when those push through it can leave some dirt on top. the eco is a larger grain so it doesn't trap any nasty air pockets.

im not familiar with using mesh so just normal cap over the top of the MG

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Ive been looking around for these 3g longs but havent found them anywhere except online... Which is good i dont need another tank lol
but they are so worth the 30$, come on

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you have an empty tank sitting around? that wont last...

serious, its a great shrimp/fry/betta tank

yup, root tabs just under the marsilea



Lord knows im the same way with moving things around. Just when Im happy with the looks i switch it all around. Even the wife gets pissed "why cant you stop messing around and just let things grow. Thats my new goal is to just let the plants do their thing

i did about 1 to 1.5 inches of the miracle grow with 1.5 - 2 inches of plain old eco black packed in the water. soil/miracle grow will always take a bit of finesse but my plants all grow with it. I dont think ill ever not use dirt unless i throw down the $$$ for aqua soil.

ive had more issues with mess in my 10 gallon with play sand. its so compact that the air pockets build up and when those push through it can leave some dirt on top. the eco is a larger grain so it doesn't trap any nasty air pockets.

im not familiar with using mesh so just normal cap over the top of the MG



but they are so worth the 30$, come on


Yeah I need to grab a light and filter and ill be good to go. It sort of got pushed to the side but now that I lost the bowl I'm gonna have to push forward with it. I imagine it as a moss garden
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I am very very jealous of your 20 long HC carpet. It looks so lush, do you find the ferts and such help a lot?
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I am very very jealous of your 20 long HC carpet. It looks so lush, do you find the ferts and such help a lot?
this tank was started to grow the hc carpet, mission accomplished

im over it and about to rip it all out, the trimming on this stuff is out of control

millions of tiny little pieces floating all around my tank and netting it for hours

not fun...


im doing a heavy dose of ei and this week starting to add in k2so4 and iron chelate

id have to imagine its doing good for the plants, that and the dirt bottom

thanks for the compliment even though im starting to despise the hc

maybe in a nano cube


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interesting! What do you plan on doing with the tank after tearing it up?
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Thanks for answering my questions! I'm thinking of ordering the eco complete on Drs F&S but they have a coarse and a fine grade for the black. I like the fine grade from a looks standpoint, but not sure if either would be a better cap than the other?
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interesting! What do you plan on doing with the tank after tearing it up?
i think glosso is next on my list, though i just bought some staurogyne repens, kinda expensive but that certainly is a plant ive never seen locally and wanna try to grow that out too. i also really want the stargrass to take over

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Thanks for answering my questions! I'm thinking of ordering the eco complete on Drs F&S but they have a coarse and a fine grade for the black. I like the fine grade from a looks standpoint, but not sure if either would be a better cap than the other?
id go with the fine grade if i could find it locally, should be much easier to plant in

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Huh... Guppy fry everywhere!

Feeding the 10 gallon tank I moved some of the floaters in the back and there they were. I know live bearing fish aren't anything to jump up and down about but still it's my first babies. I'm not counting the ones that got eaten

11 babies scooped out and moved to shrimp tank now. Isn't that a lot for 1 female?

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They won't get eaten in here...

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I was the same way when my mollies began breeding. Now when the fry are big enough they go into the turtle tank.
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You have some nice tank hanbone. I like your scape designs. What camera are you using for the closeup shots?
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You have some nice tank hanbone. I like your scape designs. What camera are you using for the closeup shots?
Thanks for checking out my tanks, I'm still new to this plant thing

In post 3 and post 7 and the final shot of the dwarf hair grass in the betta bowl I used my cannon t3i. All the rest are just a plain old i-phone 4.

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I was the same way when my mollies began breeding. Now when the fry are big enough they go into the turtle tank.
The excitement has almost wore off after an hour

My buddy has mollies and platies and just lets them do their thing. Survival of the fittest

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So excited. Fish eggs have arrived in the mail from the land far far away!

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