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post #31 of 60 (permalink) Old 06-26-2013, 01:31 AM Thread Starter
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Ive got some browning. But does this seem normal to you guys? I mist about 1 or twice a day. Also got lots of holes in the sarap wrap.

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post #32 of 60 (permalink) Old 06-26-2013, 01:46 AM
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Ive found browning happens by too large of clumps, acclimation (old dying off to promote new growth), and melting by excel (this specific from "anotherhobby" mr aqua 3 gallon office). It looks like there are some new runners and I bet there is a lot still working under the ground to break free.
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Ooooo I didnt realize I had runners!! Its probably because the clumps r too big and I had some puddles in the early stages of my DSM. I just hope most will stay green!!

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Do you guys think I should get another 13w ebi light? Seems like the rock is blocking the light intensity so im having to swing the light left and right after couple hours. Im not sure if another light will make my dhg grow better or will just grow an insane amount of algae..im also in the process of getting a co2 system. thoughts anyone??

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Patience my friend. DSM really test our patience. If it isn't broken don't fix it?
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Patience my friend. DSM really test our patience. If it isn't broken don't fix it?
+1. Just let it grow, if the backside isn't showing much signs of growth in a few weeks - then you can either transplant your good runners by the shaded areas.

Remember I told you about the bunched up DHG? well as you can see in the pictures one stem of DHG creates a bunch of runners. they are all interconnected with eachother creating kind-of a flow of nutrients to one another. They will send runners out further and further going into dark areas but not having to worry about the poor conditions because of the others supplying nutrients. When you bunch up your DHG, they are all different seedlings competing to create runners with nutrients and light. While some have great success others don't make out too well. This is why people always say break them up to 2-3 stems per plant.

Doing transplants (pulling stems and replanting them) will cause a delay as well, seeing how they have to settle and re-root themselves plus the different lighting scheme (if put closer to the shaded environment)
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+1. Just let it grow, if the backside isn't showing much signs of growth in a few weeks - then you can either transplant your good runners by the shaded areas.

Remember I told you about the bunched up DHG? well as you can see in the pictures one stem of DHG creates a bunch of runners. they are all interconnected with eachother creating kind-of a flow of nutrients to one another. They will send runners out further and further going into dark areas but not having to worry about the poor conditions because of the others supplying nutrients. When you bunch up your DHG, they are all different seedlings competing to create runners with nutrients and light. While some have great success others don't make out too well. This is why people always say break them up to 2-3 stems per plant.

Doing transplants (pulling stems and replanting them) will cause a delay as well, seeing how they have to settle and re-root themselves plus the different lighting scheme (if put closer to the shaded environment)
I had too much dhg and thought I had to leave 1 inch spaces so thats why I had it bunched up more. And yea, im never a patient guy but I know the dsm will be worth it since I dont want to see a flooded but bald tank... I guess medium light is good so I wont have to trim so often. Now im tempted to buy more dhg and just plant the empty spaces lol....Nice pic vermin!

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if you live by a petsmart (dont know if canada has those) but their topfin DHG is really good. Only problem is their stupid gel attached to it but very easy to break apart and turn into bunches.

Also when transplanting existing DHG - I still like to do the 2-3 stems (break the link of them into 2-3 per bunch*) but now they are the same family bunch. This means no competing and quicker growth. Just things I've learned along the way from trying to grow DHG haha.

*also you don't have to bunch them up, you can lay them out in a line just like runners are. DSM is probably easier to do this compared to having the aquarium filled like I've been doing.

Thanks for the compliment on the pics, just documentary photos for my reference.
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Hmmmm..im actually loving dsm cause i know they will grow a lot faster and spread a lot sooner..also no need for a water change!
Have you guys heard of people misting their plants with soda water during dsm to supplement co2? LOl sounds ridic but it sounds like a better idea than misting excel.










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Thanks mistah for the tips about the water level!! I just soaked a bunch of paper towels at 4 in the morning!! Also completely sealed the saran wrap with little holes.

And yes, detective trix Im from Richmond!
Still undecided whether to go hob or cannister. Im thinking those small hobs wont ruin the look of the rimless tank so much..

Water, thx for feedback. Any idea whether dhg will appear "greener" if I pump co2 compared to excel?




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C02 makes it look really bright green and in my opinion it's a whole lot thicker too. I actually do both. C02 and excel But I haven't had the time to get more c02......unfortunately some of my grass r starting to look depressed because I haven't used c02 for about 2 weeks now.. Click image for larger version

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Still growing pretty nicely?
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Have you guys heard of people misting their plants with soda water during dsm to supplement co2? LOl sounds ridic but it sounds like a better idea than misting excel.
There is plenty of CO2 in the air. Just make sure you have some holes poked or a corner open for air exchange. Don't use excel. It melted my plants during my DSM both times I used it. Each time set me back 4 weeks (2 week melt, 2 week recovery). That was with HC, but I wouldn't try it again.

Just don't mess with it. You can't speed it up. Just mist daily and keep it humid, but let is breath.
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C02 makes it look really bright green and in my opinion it's a whole lot thicker too. I actually do both. C02 and excel But I haven't had the time to get more c02......unfortunately some of my grass r starting to look depressed because I haven't used c02 for about 2 weeks now.. Attachment 167193
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Yeah! Thats really one of the main reasons why im gonna go with a co2 system. And also dosing excel everyday is too much to do!

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Not bad I think! Not really sure how well its spreading but heres an updated pic!


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There is plenty of CO2 in the air. Just make sure you have some holes poked or a corner open for air exchange. Don't use excel. It melted my plants during my DSM both times I used it. Each time set me back 4 weeks (2 week melt, 2 week recovery). That was with HC, but I wouldn't try it again.

Just don't mess with it. You can't speed it up. Just mist daily and keep it humid, but let is breath.
Ya I def am not messing with it. I just mist once or twice a day. Also not really sure how humid it is or whether I have enough holes or not but seems like the dhg is healthy! Any idea how long I can keep it in dsm??? Id rather wait for a thick carpet to grow faster than flood it sooner and take longer to carpet.




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The glass doesn't look too wet in that pic. I'd say you have the right conditions in there.
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The glass doesn't look too wet in that pic. I'd say you have the right conditions in there.
LOL I just wiped it with paper towel before taking the pic but the glass normally gets wet when I mist.

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