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post #16 of 56 (permalink) Old 06-24-2013, 04:59 AM
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Googling aquascaping found the form you are using here.
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Very interesting!!
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...2.jpg~original
Where did you get the idea from. The spiral ends where you want something bold to catch the eye?
The spiral is called the Fibonacci Spiral or Golden Spiral and the grid is the rule of thirds. These are both tools for planning artistic compositions. You can use it for paintings or photography or, as you found out, even aquascapes. I liked the article that you found! Thanks for the link.

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I was thinking for the for the plants curving over on top vals or crypt spiral.
I agree! In the back I planted jungle vals and chain swords.
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are you not running co2?
Not yet, though I'd like to as soon as possible. I have a tight budget right now so I'm probably going to put together a DIY CO2 system when I can. In the meantime I'm using some Flourish Excel that I found in the basement. The plants are growing aggressively so I guess something is working...? No pearling anywhere but the giant baby's breath is growing about an inch per day. I'm seeing a lot of new growth even on the moss. Meanwhile some other things are melting. I don't even know. Plants.
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I'm probably going to put together a DIY CO2 system when I can. In the meantime I'm using some Flourish Excel
Here is my favorite DIY set up.

Some plants like vals are sensitive to excel.

The artistic composition link simplified it. Thanks!!
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looking great!!! I love all the magic quadrants, golden rule, spiral, rule of thirds etc.... you over layed. I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out.
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prob one of the top 3 of my fav tanks on this forum job well done
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Very beautiful tank, great start!
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Very cool. impressive planning and execution. I look forward to seeing the plants grow out of the water and onto those branches.
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post #25 of 56 (permalink) Old 07-14-2013, 04:51 PM
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Tis my favorite and I have been collecting pics since 2007.

Just would put some tall plants on the lefts side. Also there is a branch that is almost in the middle which I would remove.
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any updated pics?
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Alright, it's been about a month since I got everything set up. Here's what's going on.


Most notable addition is probably some plants coming out the top. There's philodendron, some ivy from the back yard, and a small stem of dracaena of some type. I have a CFL shop/clamp light attached to a lamp post that illuminates them, but it looks really ghetto so I moved it out of this shot. Anyway, the plants are growing really well and I'd like to add a lot more.


I got a few animals: 4x otocinclus, 6x rummy-nose tetras, and about 20 Taiwan fire red shrimp. There are still plenty of tannins in the water but nobody seems to mind.





The rummy-noses wouldn't stay still for a photo so you'll just have to use your imagination.

A month ago I tied a bunch of moss onto rocks. This is what a month of moss growth looks like for me:


There are three moss rocks in the center of this photo. The one in front is peacock moss, top left is christmas, top right is willow and the only thing that has grown on that one is some BBA that I need to take care of.


A fissidens rock



Evaporation was becoming an issue so I made a lid out of a piece of acrylic. It is two panels -- a front and a back -- with holes for the wood and tank equipment. I can put the roots of my surface plants through the holes. I cut this all out with a dremel, which was probably the least efficient way of doing it but it was all I had. It looks pretty rough in person but it's better than nothing!

Before I made my lid I just covered the surface of the water with sheets of saran wrap. The plants (and algae) grew like gangbusters. When I switched to the acrylic sheet the light was reduced considerably. Some of the parts in the back got so dark that the plants died. I'd like to get a second light for the back. I'm thinking of a Finnex Monster Ray. The quality of the light is gorgeous, especially in combination with the Ray 2 (what I'm using here) but I don't know if the light is strong (or useful) enough to reach all the way to the bottom. Don't know! Suggestions welcome. Most of the plants in the back are all low-light so they're doing alright.

I have some dramatic slopes in the back, too. In the back corners the slopes are about 7" high. Here you can see the strata of substrate:


Fluorite at the top, lava rocks and aquarium gravel underneath.


And finally, some sound-proofing for the filter and air pump. Supposedly the canister filter should be silent but mine is really loud. I think I may have damaged it the first time I turned it on. Boo.
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Alright, it's been about a month since I got everything set up. Anyway, the plants are growing really well and I'd like to add a lot more.

There are three moss rocks in the center of this photo. The one in front is peacock moss, top left is christmas, top right is willow and the only thing that has grown on that one is BBA

I'm thinking of a Finnex Monster Ray. The quality of the light is gorgeous, especially in combination with the Ray 2 (what I'm using here)

The canister filter should be silent but mine is really loud. I think I may have damaged it the first time I turned it on. Boo.
Moss loves KNO3. Have you checked your nitrates. Also if you have an abundance of phosphates in your water BBA will grow. That is what happens in my tank. Adding KNO3 kill this algae. With the reduction of lights with a siesta. Like 4hrs on 3hrs off 4hrs.

I thought you were using a shop light. I saw a tank with Finnex Monster Ray and Ray 2. Looked very nice.

Concerning the canister filter, did you check the propeller in the motor?
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Thats pretty crazy soundproofing you got going. I had similar issues with that same filter and finally gave up and purchased an eheim 2217. Check the white piece of plastic you can seeing looking down into the in port and make sure its positioned correctly.

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Gorgeous tank. I like where things are going with this one...


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