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post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-06-2013, 02:22 AM
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Your HC looks much fuller than mine. I'm at almost 5 weeks doing the DSM. I'm getting anxious myself to fill it up but will wait longer. For myself I'm thinking around 2 months. Here's my HC. I guess like everything patience is the key.
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I've been doing DSM with my current HC plants since the end of Feb. That's a full 3 months. It'd be filled with water now if I didn't accidentally almost kill them twice with Excel.

So the plants can go longer than 2 months. Whether or not you can... I have no idea.
haha....i can barely handle 2 weeks.
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Your HC looks much fuller than mine. I'm at almost 5 weeks doing the DSM. I'm getting anxious myself to fill it up but will wait longer. For myself I'm thinking around 2 months. Here's my HC. I guess like everything patience is the key.
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well i think i just made my plugs bigger. theres not too much growth and thats with 14 hour lighting.
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well i think i just made my plugs bigger. theres not too much growth and thats with 14 hour lighting.
i think it might be your lighting. i had hc in a 3 gallon with the fugeray-r. went months and months without growth. i eventually just took it out and grew it emersed. i'm using it in my dsm now(http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh....php?p=3481042) i see some people with success with leds and hc but it seems more people have success with a t5ho or power compact set up. Looking good by the way. i like your hardscape.
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i think it might be your lighting. i had hc in a 3 gallon with the fugeray-r. went months and months without growth. i eventually just took it out and grew it emersed. i'm using it in my dsm now(http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh....php?p=3481042) i see some people with success with leds and hc but it seems more people have success with a t5ho or power compact set up. Looking good by the way. i like your hardscape.
thanks for your feedback! i really hope its not my lighting but i guess only time will tell. good luck with your iwagumi tank...it looks good so far.
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there has been a lot of sprouting so far. not a lot of side shoot growth but just new growth in general. i'm assuming that once the new growth reaches maturity the horizontal growth with start. no sign of mold, fungai or algae since i started spraying with hydrogen peroxide tho. i added nitrogen, potassium and trace elements to the mist to hopefully accelerate the growth. there hasnt been any dying leaves either....just slow and steady. hopefully it picks up soon!
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so im a little concerned with the lack of growth. Its been more than a month and all im getting are little shoots here and there. i havent really done anything different other than raise the water level a little bit because of yellowing leaves but within a day they water evaporated. i posted an update in the beginning of the thread. any advice would help! thanks!
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With fluval shrimp stratum, mine took 4 weeks before any noticeable growth. If I ready your first post correctly, you are at 2 weeks plus 10 days, so 24 days.

If you look at the time lapse in my 3 gallon nano thread in my signature, I just started to see real growth in week 4 before I killed it with excel.

Since yours is still alive and hasn't melted, I really wouldn't mess with it. On a side note, I wouldn't use FSS again for DSM just because it's soooo sloooow. It should go, but it takes time.

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With fluval shrimp stratum, mine took 4 weeks before any noticeable growth. If I ready your first post correctly, you are at 2 weeks plus 10 days, so 24 days.

If you look at the time lapse in my 3 gallon nano thread in my signature, I just started to see real growth in week 4 before I killed it with excel.

Since yours is still alive and hasn't melted, I really wouldn't mess with it. On a side note, I wouldn't use FSS again for DSM just because it's soooo sloooow. It should go, but it takes time.

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Thats reassuring. Yeah next time I'll go with another substrate. You think its cause the substrate is too big and not enough nutrients?
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Did you use any root tabs? I am on day 15 on my dry start =), its spreading pretty good. But my ludigwia Atlantis all died, even tho they were grown emersed anyways..

Day 1 and day 15 =)

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Thats reassuring. Yeah next time I'll go with another substrate. You think its cause the substrate is too big and not enough nutrients?
I don't think it's the substrate size. I think it's the lack of any nutrients in FSS. It'll uptake nutrients fine, it just doesn't come with any.

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Did you use any root tabs? I am on day 15 on my dry start =), its spreading pretty good. But my ludigwia Atlantis all died, even tho they were grown emersed anyways..

Day 1 and day 15 =)
Yeah, I didn't use root tabs, and I'm pretty sure that's the big reason mine went so slow. It was my first DSM, so live and learn.
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your downois are doing good with the ds?
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Did you use any root tabs? I am on day 15 on my dry start =), its spreading pretty good. But my ludigwia Atlantis all died, even tho they were grown emersed anyways..
i used API root tabs but after 1-2 weeks after planting.
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wow great start.

Ok I need to look up on root tabs I guess because i'm about to embark on a DSM setup and scared I might be like "anotherhobby" and pulling my hair out from it haha. just playing buddy
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wow great start.

Ok I need to look up on root tabs I guess because i'm about to embark on a DSM setup and scared I might be like "anotherhobby" and pulling my hair out from it haha. just playing buddy
Oh trust me, 17 weeks of watching grass grow, then die, then grow, then die, then grow is sheer torture. Don't do what I did, even though I ended up with a great carpet in the end.
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