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The Learning Curve - 20g HiTech / Update 8/27/2013

Alright, I have most likely bugged the crap out of all of you with tonnes of questions all over this forum just gathering information. It's been about a month and a half since I stumbled across this forum and decided to begin a planted aquarium. It's about time I started up my tank and here's a tank journal to go along with it.

First off I know I am not an expert but I have gathered plenty of information to attempt this. I'll have plenty of pics (first couple are with my phone so they're bad quality, got a hold of my brothers SLR so better quality pictures are coming) for you guys to look through.
The biggest thing I want is constructive criticism or help so I can learn and improve my tank and this experience. So if you guys see me doing anything wrong let me know so I can fix/improve it.

Setup
-20g long
-Eheim Canister 2217
-T5 HO lights
-3 Bags of eco complete
-Aquatek Mini CO2 Regulator
Fauna
Right now I'm not a 100% sure as I'm just starting off with plants but I have some ideas
-Tetras (still deciding on which ones exactly)
-Otos/amano shrimp/cory cats (if they can co-exist?)

Flora
-HC
-Anubias Nana (maybe to come)
-Parviflorous Sword
-Ambulia

So I picked up all the equipment over about a 1 month span and I purchased 4 potted dwarf baby tears and started preparing them to be planted.

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(05/17/13)
These are the poor quality phone taken photos. the rest should be better quality.

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(05/18/13)

Alright so everything's been done, I'm starting to get some condensation inside the tank, is this bad?
Also I have a little water coming over the substrate at its lowest point, is this ok?

Alright so that's it for the start of my first tank, I'll keep updating this forum and if you have any input/questions dont be afraid to ask or drop a comment.
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Water and condensation is fine. Following!
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Water and condensation is fine. Following!
Thanks, just making sure.
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From my experience , HC will melt down in DSM --> good luck
I was told DSM was the best way to start HC, have you heard people having similar results to yours?
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I was told DSM was the best way to start HC, have you heard people having similar results to yours?
It depends on HC. If they plant it in emersed , then it will not melt down. You should plant it in subemersed+ CO2+ high light
I know some members had similar problem as me.
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It depends on HC. If they plant it in emersed , then it will not melt down. You should plant it in subemersed+ CO2+ high light
I know some members had similar problem as me.
Alright I might have to switch over, how long was it into DSM when it started melting?
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Not to discredit jimmy but that looks to be pots from florida aquatic which is grown emersed. Which means you are fine. DSM is really the way to go it is far less hassle in the beginning as well. Just make sure you wait a week or so before you add any fauna once you go submerged. So you can crank your co2 like crazy once you finally do submerge.
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Here, he also did DSM, and got some HC melt
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Up to you. You can follow DSM, but don't be surprise about HC melt
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In my experience, when I did my DSM I just cranked up my Co2 once I filled my tank to reduce my chances of my HC melting. I still have a full carpet as of now. Best of luck to you!
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The only problem is I'm doing DIY CO2 so wouldn't I not really be able to "crank it up"?
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Update 05/25/13

So it's day 8 of the DSM

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I've been spraying it down once a day, leaving the lights on for 10-12 hours a day. Should I cut back on that or change anything? Also should I add anymore water?

For 1 week I'm sure I'm seeing some growth, which to me, isn't too shabby. The HC has started to get some really pretty color from when I first bought it and the sprouts are starting to stand up. I'm pretty sure I'm seeing some new sprouts around some of the plants, but that could just be my mind running.

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looks like too much water.
I don't let water "appear" on the surface
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looks like too much water.
I don't let water "appear" on the surface
Should I try to siphon it out? The growth looks a little better in those areas though
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This is the water level I set.


Soil appear wetter than usual as I just mist it before taking a picture.
Those HC on the top of slope dried, browned and died eventually though.

I'm not sure if "too much water will rot the HC", I keep water lvl down the soil to avoid mold and algae. I only have one DSM experience thus I could be just lucky. (my words sound unsure as I hate giving out incorrect information)

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