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post #361 of 451 (permalink) Old 02-21-2014, 12:19 PM
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Hey, I was just wondering, since you're the master of LED disco/color, do you know of how I could add more red/green to my light? It's the Marineland reef capable, so it's really blue :/
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Why dont you look into a diy solution? The you could add however many color leds you want. Plus you wouldn't need a very large power supply. Ledgroupbuy.com has everything you need, amongst other places. HTH
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Why dont you look into a diy solution? The you could add however many color leds you want. Plus you wouldn't need a very large power supply. Ledgroupbuy.com has everything you need, amongst other places. HTH

I am TERRIBLE at wiring though, haha. And I've run out of electrical outlets :P
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i just totally spent my friday morning reading through this again.. haha the progress is impressive man.

how are you liking the new lights? i checked a us seller and apparently there are 2 versions a "color" and non color version apparently. i'm assuming you got the color version yea?
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^ Thanks Gnod, glad you like it. I'm sort of on cruise control right now, just letting it do it's thing.


I got two of the colour version and I turn the blue down quite a bit. Pearling is more intense with the blue but that probably just because there is more light.

Results of the Race: Winner Glosso

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The glosso in the back were planted trimmings, glosso doesn't grow that fast.


About the LEDs:
A pet peeve of mine is the different colours when taking a picture. Unless you take a picture at the same time each day (no one does that) you will get different intensity. I have the ramp up and down at certain times with a "high light" period.

A good example is this picture, with higher white it looks like this,


The LEDs should be in the States, I think you guys have two distributors but I'm not sure if it's the older version. I'm actually trying to get a fellow member here some of these units, I think he can really showcase the lights.



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Where did you get the 23 watt cfl lights?? I'm looking to do the same thing in a 60p I'm starting up soon.
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Man those lights look so bad ass
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Where did you get the 23 watt cfl lights?? I'm looking to do the same thing in a 60p I'm starting up soon.
Ikea, 10 bucks a pop. Don't use anything bigger than a 23watt, the light fixture will stick out of the reflector. Try to get the 6500K, or day time light as they call it.



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I'm in need of a trim.



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You should totally make a rotala jungle with a tiny bit of glosso in the front center
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That actually sound pretty cool, if only I could somehow get glosso not to twist when it grows in the water column, I'll do it!

If anyone looking to grow a glosso carpet, do it! It's fast, easy to grow, and roots well.




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At first, I thought that the glosso had attempted to climb up the rotala. Hahaha
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Your overgrown glosso drives me nuts! I'll trim it for you for free haha. If you do have plans to trim it, do so by clipping it close to the substrate leaving only it's runners. I like glosso for the fact that it can overgrow and still maintain health at substrate level, where as with HC you need to trim it low, and frequently, in order to avoid die off underneath. However, glosso grows too fast for my preference whereas HC is somewhat slower in moderate light. Glosso grows everywhere and infests the tank, HC is easier to control.
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How do you like the lights?? Any reviews??

@Brian_Cali --> Micranthemum 'Monte Carlo' and Elatine Hydropiper are two completely different plants....they are also the exact opposite in size on the spectrum ('Monte Carlo' grows larger while elatine hydropiper/mini glosso is known as one of the smallest, if not the smallest, foreground plants)

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'Monte Carlo' (aka: Elatine hydropiper)? Or, UG (as what was suggested).
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^ It's great, I been meaning to do this infograph and realize I lost the write up I did. Not to worry, I'll just write it again.

Here some progression pictures.


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You have the option of ramping up and down the light intensity, while also controlling which "channels" are affected. I prefer to have a higher colour(RGB) compare to the blue(sub 400nm) spectrum. This is just my personal preference as I like the "pop" of the colour. Keep in mind, these Cree white LEDs are rated with a high CRI (Colour Rendering Index) so you are getting a close representation of the plant's colour. What I like to do is to up the colour (Osram LEDs) with a hint of blue to bring out the reds.

This is my recommendation to MicMol, I am trying to give them advice on producing a new fixture with a better focus on planted tanks.

Non-Offical - Mock Design by me.




I believe this fixture will be better suited to utilizing the full potential of the lights. The green and deep blue LEDs are not needed in my opinion as a higher number of white leds can full fill that part of the spectrum.

Here an interesting chart from the Aqua Journal Dec 11 issue. It explains how blue is used more than red, and how ADA is more focused on a "blue" hue in their lights. All rights belong to ADA and I am using this for educational purposes. Please don't sue.




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