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post #106 of 145 (permalink) Old 07-22-2013, 05:31 AM Thread Starter
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Nice setup you have going thus far!!! I really want to keep Discus, but I'm afraid to take the leap because I'm 70% sure I'd kill'em lol. Maybe I'll try next year, I've been in the hobby for over 20 years, and I'm still trying to "master" the planted tank side of the hobby. Most of my years have been spent keeping new world cichlids (pretty much all of them except for Discus).
this is my first discus keeping and after studying, its really not that hard. but to got to keep clean water. so far they are doing great.
read upon simply discus forum and u will realize its not too bad.
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That's gorgeous. What are you feeding the discus?
i feed them freeze dried blackworms, frozen blackworms, some frozen beefhearts and sometimes live blackworms.

they love the live worms the most but im trying not to feed them those cuz of risk of transmitting diseases.
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Wow, amazing fish!
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post #109 of 145 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 08:20 AM Thread Starter
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added more discus from QT tank into main tank. total count is 19 now. 6 more waiting to be added soon...

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just read thru your build...great job. can't believe it's taken off so well, so quickly.

dumb question(s!!!!):

do you calculate your water change percentages based upon tank volume or tank + sump volume?

same w/ ferts?

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What are your nutrient levels right before you do a water change?

N, P, K, GH, and KH?

What do you use to raise GH, if anything?

What are you adding for trace elements? How much and how frequently?

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just read thru your build...great job. can't believe it's taken off so well, so quickly.

dumb question(s!!!!):

do you calculate your water change percentages based upon tank volume or tank + sump volume?

same w/ ferts?

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I do add sump and tank volume to get total water volume.
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What are your nutrient levels right before you do a water change?

N, P, K, GH, and KH?

What do you use to raise GH, if anything?

What are you adding for trace elements? How much and how frequently?
I do weekly 80% water change. And this maintains gh, kh. I also have ph controller. I havent measured these levels cuz with frequent wc, the npk geta replenished and fish add to it.
So i dont have to dose npk.
I do add trace weekly after wc.
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What type of filtration are you using?
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post #115 of 145 (permalink) Old 08-05-2013, 12:40 AM
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You are going to have 25 discus in a 265g tank? I think 19 is already pushing it. Your enthusiasm is showing!

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Dkreef,

I asked about your nutrient levels because an imbalance will affect plant growth and nutrient uptake. For example, if your N is low then your plants won't be taking up as much P, and vice versa. Knowing your levels right before you do a water change and then again right after might help you fix an imbalance. That will end up being better for your plants and your fish in the long run.

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You are going to have 25 discus in a 265g tank? I think 19 is already pushing it. Your enthusiasm is showing!
u think so tom?
ive asked discus experts on this and they think 25 is just right.
some even suggest more than 30 but i disagree with that.
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Dkreef,

I asked about your nutrient levels because an imbalance will affect plant growth and nutrient uptake. For example, if your N is low then your plants won't be taking up as much P, and vice versa. Knowing your levels right before you do a water change and then again right after might help you fix an imbalance. That will end up being better for your plants and your fish in the long run.

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i did measure before and after once but forgot readings. ill try that and see what difference there is.
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u think so tom?
ive asked discus experts on this and they think 25 is just right.
some even suggest more than 30 but i disagree with that.
Mine was a gut reaction; the experts on Simply are a much better resource.

I overstocked a tank once and the disease wiped out ALL of the big fish over time. It is a mistake I will never come close to repeating.

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How did overstocking cause disease?
Did water quality go down or lack of qt cause disease spread?
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