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I know that feel bro...
Damn! Yes you do. Exact same stuff... Pearls like crazy! Big bubbles... And slimy
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Since you have no livestock, can't you just do EM again but with a higher dose? Also, if you think your BGA is EM resistance, you can try Seachem's Kanalpex. The medication comes from the same family, I believe it's worth a shot rather than a total break down.

I was also told copper does the trick but that will nuke everything.



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Frrok, that does not look like BGA to me, appears to be rhizoclonium.
I had the same algae ruin my hc DSM, the one and only time I tried

CPDzeke, that is deffinitly BGA.
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Once I started PPS-PRO ferts it went away for me, at least the rhizoclonium. +1 about what synaethetic said.

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Frrok, that does not look like BGA to me, appears to be rhizoclonium.
I had the same algae ruin my hc DSM, the one and only time I tried

CPDzeke, that is deffinitly BGA.
Did you start your tank over? I'm leaning towards that.
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Hey ffrok, my BGA is responding well to EM. I also thought it was rhizoclonium, which I had in my 6 gallon, but with my 60-P, this algae has a foul smell.

Everything is working a lot better when I change my filter tube, try EM and new tube!



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Did you start your tank over? I'm leaning towards that.
Yes I did. I have had much much better success growing HC from a submersed start.
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Yes I did. I have had much much better success growing HC from a submersed start.
After your post...I did some more research and did look at some pics of rhizoclonium... And now I am thinking that I may have had this the whole time! No wonder the EM didn't really work. well, I dosed H202 a few times and did water changes and last night I looked at the tank and noticed that it may be on its way out. Not sure if my plants will bounce back though.. If I had more time I would hit it with peroxide everyday but since this was a holiday weekend I really only got a chance to do it twice since my last post.

I have been growing some back up plants just in case in an emmersed set up. got some HC, e.tennelus and s. repens. only plant I dont have is the tall dhg. So, given the fact that this stuff is not BGA. Im considering adding some of my amanos from my 4 gallon so they can start munching away it. If the amanos dont die then I know its not BGA!(would hate for that to happen)

the saga continues....but Im determined to turn this tank around. stay tuned.....
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Amanos, h202 and manual removal will work the best for getting rid of it. I've had a little bit of luck using a toothbrush to snag it out.

Spot treatments work best with H202 but maybe in your case you should do a standard dose for the whole tank.. I've heard lots of different opinions about how much to dose, i'd say 1ml for every gallon, once a day for a few days, any higher than that and it will probably screw up your plants and livestock. Cannot recall how the bio-media handles h202.

I've used h202 to rid my tank of spirogya in the past, just a light dose for a few days and it all dissappeared, the rhizoclonium should react similarly.
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Ok. So I took the time yesterday to re-do almost the whole tank. I pulled out all the dead and algae infested HC, cleaned pipes, substrate, glass, filter media, etc. I didn't remove all the s.repens though. I did notice that some of it was clean but i did cut off all the plants that had algae. And pulled out a few. The roots on it were insane! Wish I took a shot of it. Must be the aquasoil. Also, added some more aquasoil since I also sucked alot of it out. Today I'm buying a new ammonia test kit to test my water and see if my beneficial bacteria can handle the possible ammonia spike. I also dropped my photo period to 8 hrs(10 before) and raise my light and inch or so. I think I'll keep the co2 at around 2-3 bps. See how that goes. I wish I had a little more HC but I think I think I did the best that I could with what I had. Here is a shot. Please exuse the quality it was late and I took it with my iPhone.
Thanks for looking and let me know what you think.
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You're get a lush carpet of HC in no time. It's like riding a bike, once you grow HC it seem easier than the first time. Take a gander at my tank, the carpet is coming along nicely after the EM treatment.



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looks good, I want that outlflow.
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You're get a lush carpet of HC in no time. It's like riding a bike, once you grow HC it seem easier than the first time. Take a gander at my tank, the carpet is coming along nicely after the EM treatment.
Cool man. Thanks for the encouragement. This is my first stab at HC and its been a rough ride so far. Just have to find a balance. I'm starting to get brown algae which I consider a good sign. No ammonia reading so adding three ottos to help. Next would be to add amano's but I'm waiting unt the HC roots well enough that they don't uproot it.
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looks good, I want that outlflow.
Aquatic Magic. Not bad at all. I like the smaller diameter. But I'm super careful not to break it. One broke already.
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Good idea to just reset the tank, that can be the easiest solution to the problem. Does your LED have a dimmer? That might be handy.
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