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Sounds wonderful. I hope the lower cost means you get to set the new tank up sooner!
Good call!!!! That's the point. I am getting Nick's new Blue Diamond neos they're a dream come true

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Good call!!!! That's the point. I am getting Nick's new Blue Diamond neos they're a dream come true
Oh, wow. Those are AMAZING. Post tons of pics, please!
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Good call!!!! That's the point. I am getting Nick's new Blue Diamond neos they're a dream come true
They are. They arrived just in time too.

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They are. They arrived just in time too.
Heh I just made my own deposit. I may need extra time, though. I'm looking for an instant cycle with seeding of bio balls through a canister filter.

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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I have a couple sponge filters in my PFR tank I can move over until my HOB is seeded...as much as I hate to, I might even consider trying bacteria in a bottle, only as a last resort. I think the sponges will be fine though, I'm only getting 11 shrimp to start so there won't be much bioload.

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You got some of the blue diamonds? You should sell me some once they start breeding for you.

My first ADA still has a couple weeks of DSM before I flood it, but I've already got several sponges filtered in another tank ready for an instant cycle.
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Yeah I did I'm excited. I just need to figure out a substrate and I'm golden . I've gotta order it soon.

Any drawbacks to fluorite?

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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I have a couple sponge filters in my PFR tank I can move over until my HOB is seeded...as much as I hate to, I might even consider trying bacteria in a bottle, only as a last resort. I think the sponges will be fine though, I'm only getting 11 shrimp to start so there won't be much bioload.
Only 6 here. I figured I'd start smaller and keep a super small bio load.

I probably will never do bacteria in a bottle for a real tank.

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Well, judging from Nick's posts I would say fluorite is a fine substrate to use. Blue diamonds--although they look amazing--are still just Neos. Which means they live in Neo params; you won't need to buffer the water down to 6.0 PH so long as you control your kH and gH.

How thick of a substrate layer are you planning on having? I have an unopened bag of amazonia that I would be fine with sending you some of. I don't think you want to mix substrates, but you could always have a flat rate box of amazonia underneath your fluorite to help buffer just a little bit. The small amount of amazonia would also leech ammonia to help with your early cycle.
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Well, judging from Nick's posts I would say fluorite is a fine substrate to use. Blue diamonds--although they look amazing--are still just Neos. Which means they live in Neo params; you won't need to buffer the water down to 6.0 PH so long as you control your kH and gH.

How thick of a substrate layer are you planning on having? I have an unopened bag of amazonia that I would be fine with sending you some of. I don't think you want to mix substrates, but you could always have a flat rate box of amazonia underneath your fluorite to help buffer just a little bit. The small amount of amazonia would also leech ammonia to help with your early cycle.
I will definitely keep that in mind! Thanks man. I may/may not mix. It depends..

I'm really debating color now that I've decided on something inert.

I've actually never had amazing luck with neos. . I couldn't tell you why, but I just haven't lol.

I'm going to try extra hard to take care of these.

Any opinions on the best color for dark blues?

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Black brings out the contrast the best. I also have noticed the same shrimp will have darker shells when raised in tanks with black vs. white substrate. Maybe it's a camouflage thing?
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Black brings out the contrast the best. I also have noticed the same shrimp will have darker shells when raised in tanks with black vs. white substrate. Maybe it's a camouflage thing?
Hmm. But won't they just kinda blend into the dark substrate rather than be out for you to see?

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I have OEBT in a jungle tank with black substrate. They don't blend in at all. Using white won't make much of a difference either!
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I think black will be great with them. As far as my luck with neos...I got no breeding with a lower pH tank (pH 6.4 - 6.5). I'm getting crazy breeding right now with my PFR's in tap water with Black Diamond. Water is 7.6ish. That's why I really want to be around pH 7 so I can also keep tigers. I think as long as the pH is 6.8 to 7.8, neos will flourish. If I didn't want tigers in the tank too, I'd just go tap and inert all the way. Might do that anyways and setup a different tank for tigers later and add Blue Diamonds as they breed.

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Is Truaqua the same as aquatop? Will you do a review when you get it?
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Is Truaqua the same as aquatop? Will you do a review when you get it?
They're the same brand . Where would you like me to do a review, I always could.

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