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post #16 of 138 (permalink) Old 06-03-2013, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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HUGE BLOG POST!!!! Im going to try my best getting all the pics in order. Uploading them will take 15 minutes alone. Im very tired because I spent the whole day in the hot balcony and rain doing my succulent DIY project. Not to mention my 2 hour tank maintenance/water change today. Check my hens and chick thread in my sig.
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Pics cover tank growth from May 6 to June 3rd, 2013.


So here it is, I leave the tank for 2 weeks and it becomes a jungle. The pics dont do justice. Its alot more than the pics show. I also hate how fast the diatom and bga grow. They get on some of my plants too. Im still trying to figure out what the hell is causing this. I did a major water change and prune, made a bucket load of clippings. Im still trying to sell them, but no ones biting. So Im going to end up garbaging them. EDIT: they went to garbage before water change. Theres just no demand up here in Toronto. Shipping here is too expensive. I went to Canada post and their rate for a medium box is $14 and shipping will take 4 to 5 days (I quoted for BC since I had people showing interest from there).


In all this jungly mess I took a heavy loss. I lost my most favourite plant, Ludwigia senegalensis (I JUST FOUND 1 STEM STILL ALIVE YESSSSS!!). I had good 4 to 5 tall stems of them. But against other quick growing plants they were not fast enough. They came under shade and just disappeared. I was shocked, like they really did disappear. They were right in the middle left of the tank, I cant find them anymore. Dam. I also lost a very rare Ludwigia (pilosa) SPHAEROCARPA. I had 2 good flourishing stems and they were my biggest investment returners I could sell them for $10 easy. But both disappeared as well. I also lost the rarest plant Ive ever had, even rare in terms of PTF, the Ludwigia cf. suffruticosa. It was growing fast as well. Im so sad and disappointed by this. Im happy plants are growing, but I just hate it how big of a difference it is in the growth rate. There have been too many rare species Ive lost over the month. Ive spent some $200 on plants alone from PTF in the past few months. I almost lost the Rotala Macranda 'Japan Red'. But Im really happy I planted a stem in the open before leaving for vacation. Its in rough shape but survived and is growing well in light.

I wonder if anyone even reads this.

My Plan now is:

Get rid of all the plants on the left side. Its a jungle of everything and it looks messy. I dont like it. I think Im going to get rid of Staurogyne Bihar, Ludwigia sp. Rubin and another yellowish plant I dont know the name of. These guys get too big and take up all the space to scape. So Im getting rid of them. I love the rubin. It has amazing colours. Dark blood reds to brilliant purple. I love it. But it grows too dam fast and worst of all, leaves get toooo big.

The next step is to get rid of dwarf sag. Thats an annoying plant. Half a year ago I sold it all and somehow a small piece still stayed. Now its growing like a weed. I also need to get rid of my staurogyne repens. Ive decided I want a DHG carpet. With these 2 plants gone, I can have some space to plant the dhg everywhere.


May 6, 2013


May 12, 2013

Big pic, click to expand.


May 14, 2013


May 27, 2013. After I return from vacation.


Removed algae from glass




After hack and slash


Selling the clippings.



May 30, 2013 (not sure if right date, maybe missplaced pic.)


Jun 2, 2013 Today






Butterfly, they were in shade and took damage. They are growing well now.



I would love it if Tom Barr or CrazyDaz comment here. Although Im ashamed of my tank conditions.

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post #17 of 138 (permalink) Old 06-04-2013, 03:36 PM
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Great photo journal. I feel the same about dwarf sag. It is slowly taking over all of my tanks, and I think I'll eventually have to tear it down if I want to get rid of it.
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Great photo journal. I feel the same about dwarf sag. It is slowly taking over all of my tanks, and I think I'll eventually have to tear it down if I want to get rid of it.
Yea, I think its a good plant for low light tanks. I never thought of it as a low light plant since its used as a mid to low cover in tanks.

My Barclaya Longifolia finally show out new leaves. It hasnt budged in over 6 months!!!!!

Also what a day, they terminated my contract at work, business lower than usual. Dam.

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Want to get rid of the entire left side of the tank.

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I'd suggest you take th left part out and fill it with one kind of plant like some kind of rotala.
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I'd suggest you take th left part out and fill it with one kind of plant like some kind of rotala.
Yes I want to get rid of that section, too much of a mess. Im selling everything in that section for a messily $10, but no ones biting (posting in Toronto, Canada).

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Im still in the process of getting rid of the left side.

Pics dont do the plant colours justice.

June ~11, 2013




June 20, 2013

From left to right its Rotala Mini Butterfly, Rotala Macranda 'Japan Red' and Rotala sp 'H ra'. They are alot more vibrant in rl than pic.






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the right side is definitely more organized looking, but the latest pics make it look like it's already time for a trimming again. man your plants grow like mad! june 11 looks good but june 20 looks overrun - only 9 days can do that? sheesh!

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the right side is definitely more organized looking, but the latest pics make it look like it's already time for a trimming again. man your plants grow like mad! june 11 looks good but june 20 looks overrun - only 9 days can do that? sheesh!

Yea its pretty quick. Before this I took pics of June 2nd, man does it look empty. Yea I really like the right side, Im going to snip and plant, its much easier to deal with them than the left side. Plants in the left side are weedy and they range from BIG to small plants. The middle I like as well, but I need to do alot of trimming. Not to mention I want to get rid of that dwarf sag.....its gonna be a pain taking them out without uprooting dhg

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Sold a massive about of plants, I ended up giving 3 bags of plants for free!!! Now the tank will be left alone for 2 weeks (visiting US for the long weekend).

Heres how it looks like today. I did the big clean up past Sunday. Bad pic, I know.

So the left most side, its empty. I planted clippings of H'ra, butterfly and japan red. I really hope they grow nice colours. The flow in the tank is great, a little strong on the front side.


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UPDATE!!!

Going to Detroit this weekend so no water changes. I have been doing 2 per week. Im trying my best to keep it at 2 or more. I really hope bga and diatoms die off. I still need to rearrange the middle as the same reds are on the right and left. I will move them together. I need to part out the diandra and aromatica as they are growing in one area. I was thinking of moving my blyxa to the far right front side and more the powerhead up (I really want those magnetic ones! if someone can sell me a used one.) and plant the reinecki mini to the far left front side. It needs light and thats a good spot. But I have too many plants there now. Dang. Gotta sell them off.



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Sweeeeeeeeeet set ups what light system/systems where u useing?
And also did u use the same substrate in all the tanks?

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Here it is. The story continuing from my thread here
My Hens and Chicks Plants

My 25 gal, 1st planted tank, all the way back in 2008. Thread is here:
http://www.gtaaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2631

My DIY 45 gal thread is here:
http://www.gtaaquaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4052
I read it again after a few years, i just ignored the comments :p ehehe Also go to last page for good pics.

So I eventually moved to high tek, diy setup. I had two shop lights pumping 2.9 w/g in my 45 gal tank with diy co2 bottles. I was really happy as everything was growing. Then I saw that there were holes in my plants and my anabius turned white. Later on I found out nutrients were also important. So I ended up buying dry ferts and dosing EI method.

The tank was going really well, loved it, regret not taking pics though. After a little while I got hit with the two worst things to hit a planted tank, U. gibba and Cladophora algae. I battled these two things for a whole year. They killed all my plants and destroyed my tank. In the end, through succession, my tape grass took over the tank along with clado. Both the algae and the carnivorous plant preferred healthy plant conditions meaning normal plants couldnt out compete them. Nor would high co2 or blackouts do anything. After a year I tore out the entire tank, threw out all my tape grass (buckets worth) and washed my tank and gravel in close to boiling water. I dried the gravel, threw it outside in my balcony in -10c weather for a few days and started over.

I tried scaping but it didnt work. I wanted wood and different levels of elevation. In the end I got rid of the mopani because it took up too much space and didnt look good. My lvl floor didnt work out either, Im not sure, they werent high enough and I just dont know how to do it.

So I loaded the tank with a few plants, didnt even spread them apart in the beginning. Went well and from there on forward its been like that since. My plants take over the tank and theres no space to scape. I feel bad throwing away bags of plants away. I sell them at low prices but as soon as someone hears "high light", no one bites.

So previously I used to take pics at random times. Recently, I take pics every month, I have a huge folder with mini folders for each month. My old HD crashed at lost a few months of pics.

My old setup at its prime. Dont know the name of the nice stem plant in the back left.


Old tank before teardown


New tank setup


Difference in water temperature


So it begins....


July 2011


Aug 2011


Sep 2011


Nov 2011


May 13, 2012


throwing away buckets worth


May 27, 2012


June 17, 2012


July 1, 2012


July 30, 2012


Aug 17, 2012



Sep 3, 2012


Sep 24, 2012



Dec 8, 2012


Jan 1, 2013


Feb 5, 2013


Feb 15, 2013



And a few random images from the timeline




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ehehehe thanks

Can you believe it that its just one tank over the course of several months? Same substrate and everything else. Im using 2 shop light T8s. Nothing fancy either I will be getting LEDs soon though.

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So just to recap, pic from July 3, 2013.



Now heres the tank July 14, 2013





After trim



I know it looks ugly. I need lessons on how to scape.

All of this is thanks to two T8 shop lights. Ill be getting LEDs cranking 150+ PAR at the substrate. I really hope the colours come out then but Im worried about algae.


AGAIN, July 3rd to July 14

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As long as you maintain a high enough c02 level you should not have a problem with more light, the stem plants will love it.
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