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post #106 of 170 (permalink) Old 03-09-2013, 03:17 AM Thread Starter
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Man, I came into tonight exhausted and ended it doubly so. I did end up buying a water changer at PetSmart last minute, but it was still a project and a half doing everything tonight. For starters I got a 50ft hose for when I set up my 55g tank, and that thing was difficult to work with. I didn't get very good suction and so that took awhile. Cleaning the filter and adding purigen went alright, but just doing it for the first time was stressful. Ended up not really changing anything with the scape for now, can always adjust that at a slower time. Now I'm not sure if this is pearling, or if bubbles from adding water just stuck to the plants, but it looked cool either way.





Now I'm going to add a few drops of ammonia to just give the bacteria one last bit of juice to make it until tomorrow when the fish go in. Although I don't know if it will ever get to them as the tank was of course dosed with Prime as the water was going in.

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Leaving in a few minutes to get the first fish for the tank!

This morning the Cabomba was pearling I think, and I'll have a picture of that later.

My A,N,N is at 0,0,40. The 40 is surprising given the huge water change, but what I'll do is just do another 50%water change while I am acclimating the new fish.

Drop checker actually arrived today. Put in the 5 drops of solution, filled with the 4whatever solution to the fill line and threw it in. Showing green, so I guess I've been doing alright with CO2. And of course the snails still live.

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I got thinking tonight about food, and wanted to know what you guys would recommend for all the fish once I have them assembled. The Plecos are of particular concern as years back I seemed to have the most horrible luck with them.

Right now I do fish pellets on M, Tu, Th, F, Su. I drop an algae wafer M night, do brine shrimp W, and bloodworms Sa. Should I do any additional days of wafers, or just plan on a veggie one night for the BN plecos? If I am able to add loaches should I make one night shrimp pellets? Same question if I end up adding assassin snails instead.

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Since you asked me this morning about your feeding schedule, I thought I would take a second look.

The day to day plan looks good, but with the Raphael, you may want to feed shrimp pellets two or three times a week, or some other catfish-friendly pellet.
As far as the plecos go, fresh veggies will never hurt.

And the ultimate answer for a good feeding regimen is happy fish and low nitrates.
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Fish are in! But let's take a step back. First, pearling Cabomba!


Got the fish from LGD on Saturday morning and they spent some time in a bucket with my adding my water slowly. Of course even though I had the bucket tilted up on another bucket I turned my back for a minute to find a tetra on the floor with some cat hair in the water. I was just so happy the fish seemed fine when I scooped him back in the bucket. Would have felt like hell if one of the fish never even made it to the tank.


Once they got in the tank a tetra broke away to pose with the angel for me.


And finally the tank as of now. The banana plant got removed, and two of the other plants just withered to nothing. You can see the drop checker up in the corner next to my thermometer and my diffuser sitting right under the filter outflow. I think I may end up bringing the lights down a few inches now that I have CO2 running and also am doing dry ferts now.

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Love to see that cabomba pearling!
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Not to the degree that it is in that picture, but it's still pearling today. If nothing else, I'm one hell of a Cabomba farmer.

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So with the Tetras being a bit bigger and more active than I imagined I'm thinking of doing some slight changes to my stocking.

Raphael Catfish
Red Tailed Shark
9 Blue Tetras
Koi Anglefish
6 Dwarf Chain Loaches
2 Bristlenose Plecos
6 Roseline Sharks
3 Pearl Gouramis
6-10 Swordtails/Mollies/Danios/Rasbories/etc

I'm thinking due to the cost and the eventual size of the Roseline Sharks I should perhaps drop them, or drop the misc community fish, but I'm not sure. I think in any case I'm going to drop the Roseline's from the order I was going to place in ~2 weeks and save them for the very end if I decide to put them in.

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Roseline sharks (denison barbs) are such nice looking fish. They are active and really pop with the right conditions. Wish I had them in my 75 instead of all my small tetras and rasboras. Problem is they would likely make a meal of my amano shrimp . I was at two different Petsmarts yesterday and they were selling them for only $9.09 ea (2-2.5") which isn't so bad. They were nice healthy specimens. Just a heads up in case you have a Petsmart nearby.
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I do, I'll have to give them a call. I was planning on paying $15 a fish. Thanks for the heads up!

And I agree, they are fantastic looking fish, which is why I'll probably end up deciding to go with them in the end.

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So... my Raphael will not come out of his castle. I put some water in a bucket, placed the castle over the bucket (sadly wouldn't fit in it), put a towel over everything to give him darkness, and two minutes later he still kept himself wedged in the castle. I know eventually he'd probably give up and drop, but I felt bad keeping him out as long as he was already. I'm just going to have to watch over the next few hours/days and if he is just floating in the top but not wedged I'll quick pull up the castle so he doesn't have that option.

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Well, I tried to get the Raphael into the tank and away from his castle by simply holding the castle so his upper body was out of water and his tail was just touching the water, hoping he would give up and drop into the tank, but no luck. So I ended up calling a friend who had my 29g tank for awhile and asked him if he ever had to move the Raphael. He used a tooth brush to gently coax the fish and that's what I did. It took some time and I reaaaaally hope I didn't hurt him as I've had him forever. Hopefully in the end he likes his new big home.

And then there was even more trials and tribulations. I got the Red Tailed Shark in a tupperware container, had it over the tank and was shedding some water out when the thing launches out and of course goes behind the tank. I was able to get to him in about a minute and I also really hope he's OK. Back when I first started I had horrible luck with Red Tails despite always loving them. I went through two with no luck and then my buddy who had the tank went through a third. This time his color is staying strong and he's been very active and healthy and I really hope I didn't screw over a 4th Red Tail.

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Might as well do a plants update while I'm drip readying the fishes.

First, Scarlet Temple. The interesting thing about these plants are that the near two were given to me by LGD earlier than the big one in the back was added. And yet the one in the back, although starting larger, seems to be growing better and has one, perhaps two baby plants coming off of it if you look closely to the front and left of it.


I think this is Green Ludwigia, and what I find interesting about it as you can so very clearly see how the plant melted down to a certain point and then new growth began. It only shows somewhat in the picture, but the color difference between old growth (dark green) and new growth (bright green) is night and day.


I'm still not 100% sure what this is (help!), but once again the picture doesn't do justice to how well the white and green color separation is, giving it a spectacular look from the top.


Red Tiger Lotus. I remember probably two-three weeks or so ago when this was still 3-4 tattered discolored leaves. I can't believe how this thing has absolutely exploded since then.


There are two foreground plants that should be in this picture that have all but disappeared, and will probably be gone completely soon. The plants behind seem to be doing alright, but nothing spectacular and I hope a few of them really take hold soon.


And finally, probably the only overhead shot I'll ever get of Chris Angel, the Raphael who caused me so much trouble. Oh, and I had heard about it, but it was quick a shock to hear how loud the Raphael's croak can be!

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Well, both have made it through the night, that's good at least. Funny thing is this morning, even with some sunlight coming through, the Raphael was slowly strolling through the entire tank. In years I have not seen him as much as I did this morning. Of course now with the light on he's taken cover in the rocks, but hopefully with low/no lights he continues to be more social.

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Plant that you dont know in the pic is Sunset Hygrophelia. That stuff is a weed and will grow super fast. Also illegal in some states.
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Plant that you dont know in the pic is Sunset Hygrophelia. That stuff is a weed and will grow super fast. Also illegal in some states.
Right you are, thanks!

Suppose once it reaches the top of the tank I'll cut it in half and move it to the back and bring something else up in front of the driftwood.

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