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post #31 of 38 (permalink) Old 01-03-2013, 10:52 PM
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Do healthy shrimp sometimes fail to molt?
I have very little experience with shrimps and cannot tell you for sure.

How are your plants and other livestocks doing?
Once you get your plants to grow, we can probably trade or something. I know you don't have much for now, maybe I can ROAK you some in the near future. Its nice to share plants so we have different species available at all times.

on a related note, don't bury the anubias rhizome.

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post #32 of 38 (permalink) Old 01-04-2013, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
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All of my other plants and fish seem to be doing fine. The plants are all growing new leaves, even the jungle val which had the holes in its older leaves. The neon tetras are bright and colorful and they are swimming in a loose group. And, last but not least, the surviving WCMM has regained its color and is eating well during feeding time. It seems that giving it another WCMM friend really helped it to recover.

Trading plants sounds great! I'll be looking forward to that once my plants become more established.

BTW, I bought the API KH & GH test kit and the calcium test kit. My tap and tank water is testing GH 12 dH (~210 ppm) and KH 6 dH (~105 ppm). Calcium was ~80 mg/L. So, I'm still not quite sure why that shrimp died.
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The shrimp could have died for a number of reasons. Stress from the previously present Ammonia and Nitrite, stirring up things when planting and replanting, general stress. It's tough to say.

Since you have Tetras and very few places for shrimp to hide, I'm betting it was pestered to death. Would be a good idea to add more moss.

Your GH and KH are perfect for Cherries. No real need to worry about calcium in your tank.
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post #34 of 38 (permalink) Old 01-05-2013, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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Ok. You make some excellent points! One of my WCMMs is a real jerk. He is always "herding" my tetra and WCMM. It might have been that fish that pestered the shrimp. Though I've never seen him bother shrimp, I have seen his sneaky fish self rooting around in the java moss.

The decoration in the middle is hollow and filled with hornwort and the roots of my java fern so fish cannot get in there. When the shrimp arent in the java moss, they hide there. Also, there is more java moss than i show in my pics. There is a bit behind the driftwood on the right side of my tank. Maybe I can add some dwarf hairgrass in front of the driftwood on both side of my tank to make the those areas more shrimp safe?

I really need my plants to fill in more to create a better space in my tank. Hopefully the flourish comprehensive that I have started dosing will help with that.

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adam, what type of light do you have and are you doing co2?

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I am using a marineland double bright 24-36" and no CO2.
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post #37 of 38 (permalink) Old 01-05-2013, 03:52 PM
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That means you're on the low end of low light, which isn't a bad thing.

You should avoid Dwarf Hair Grass. You're going to have to mess with the substrate too much while planting. If you want to keep shrimp, you'll need to take it easy when it comes to messing with the tank.

I understand that there are bits of moss here and there but you'll need plenty of it for shrimp. Not just hiding places but room for them to move around within the moss, to feed, to generally exist. Especially if you're set on keeping fish that aren't good tank mates.
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post #38 of 38 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 03:17 AM
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I agree with what jake mentioned.

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