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post #106 of 115 (permalink) Old 03-11-2013, 05:53 AM Thread Starter
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I hope so too. It's good that you double checked your water parameters as that last water change was necessary.

Did you change the carbon in your filter? That I would definitely do as well.

Once the ammonia level is down... and it should drop with the small daily water changes until it's down again... then you'll be out of the woods. Please just avoid disturbing the substrate or plants at all during this time. You don't want to add any more.

The fish you have left must be very hardy little guys, so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll survive this.
I changed the filter about three weeks ago. They are those blue pads with charcoal in them like this:
Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies

So I don't have a way to just change the carbon.

The glowlight tetras are very, very hardy!

I wonder if some of the ammo is from the dead snail I found today, too. He was all tore up and out of his shell. I'm guessing it'd be at least a day he was in there, dead.
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I changed the filter about three weeks ago. They are those blue pads with charcoal in them like this: Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies

So I don't have a way to just change the carbon.

The glowlight tetras are very, very hardy!

I wonder if some of the ammo is from the dead snail I found today, too. He was all tore up and out of his shell. I'm guessing it'd be at least a day he was in there, dead.
There was a dead snail? That definitely would have contributed.

I'd change the filter. Carbon when it gets full will begin releasing the contaminates, and there's been more than normal lately. I wouldn't risk it. A fresh filter would only help.

Off to bed now, but let us know what the ammonia levels are after tomorrow's small wc. (remember, no big siphon or disturbing the substrate/plant roots. sorry to be redundant, I just don't want any more setbacks for you!)

Using the airline tubing is ok to get at the rest of the exposed mulm, and removing any dead plant leaves is good too. Hopefully no more dead snails, or fish.

Those little tetras deserve some frozen brine shrimp treat after all this gets resolved.


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Yep, I mentioned it in post #94.

Re: changing the filter - will it do anything to the bacterial colony and start a mini-cycle? I've always read not to change the filter unless it's absolutely decomposing. The last time I changed it, I had another filter in there, too, cycling, before I took the old one out.

Doing a WC here in a few mins...

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There was a dead snail? That definitely would have contributed.

I'd change the filter. Carbon when it gets full will begin releasing the contaminates, and there's been more than normal lately. I wouldn't risk it. A fresh filter would only help.

Off to bed now, but let us know what the ammonia levels are after tomorrow's small wc. (remember, no big siphon or disturbing the substrate/plant roots. sorry to be redundant, I just don't want any more setbacks for you!)

Using the airline tubing is ok to get at the rest of the exposed mulm, and removing any dead plant leaves is good too. Hopefully no more dead snails, or fish.

Those little tetras deserve some frozen brine shrimp treat after all this gets resolved.
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The biological filtration is on your biowheel. While there may be some bacteria everywhere inside the filter, the main purpose of the blue pad is the chemical filtration of the charcoal. If the charcoal is full however, it begins to release the contaminates back into the water. That's why you have to change it every so often... more often if there's more contaminates. Given this past month, I think it definitely should be changed.

You can use the airline tubing again if you have time to try to remove the remaining exposed mulm off the plants and rocks. I'd also recommend trimming any dead leaves.

As always, avoid disturbing the substrate or uprooting the plants and causing any more water borne mulm. Things should be getting better.


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ps- do you know to never clean the biowheel?


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Yes, I do know not to touch the biowheel.

Ammonia is now at between 0ppm and .25ppm. Getting better!
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Yes, moving in the right direction!

You should only need another water change tomorrow, and maybe airline any remaining exposed mulm out. Then let's let it be until the weekend... unless something happens in the interim.


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Thanks for all your help Sherry. I found some dwarf/pygmy corys online. Very tempted. No one local has the little ones.
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They are hard to pass up, but I'd think you would want to wait at the very least a couple of weeks after getting your tank stabilized, and making sure you have a good maintenance routine down without any more ammonia spikes.

It'll be worth it in the end.


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Just a note that when you look for cories, there are three dwarf cories that are supposed to be similar in personalities: corydorus pygmaeus, c. habrosus and c. hastatus.

I've only had the pygmy but you might find one of the other two locally, or you might like their coloration better.


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