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theres starting to be a pretty nasty surface film. any ideas how to get rid of it?

i cleaned the diatoms, but they are starting to come back. and i see some hair algae on some plants too. its not looking so hot
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theres starting to be a pretty nasty surface film. any ideas how to get rid of it?

i cleaned the diatoms, but they are starting to come back. and i see some hair algae on some plants too. its not looking so hot
Surface agitation, filter carbon or an HOB filter would do it lol


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Surface agitation, filter carbon or an HOB filter would do it lol


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i just added carbon the other day, so maybe that will help. although it hasnt yet...

there isnt space for a HOB filter and the flow needs to stay low because of the betta, so i wont be able to get anymore surface agitation..
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You may need to live with a little surface agitation or a little film :/ I have a sump on my spec, and the surface of the water is almost never broken. I get a slight film too.


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i have the output so that the surface ripples, but the film is so thick that it just mived up and down, its not broken. its really nasty
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i have the output so that the surface ripples, but the film is so thick that it just mived up and down, its not broken. its really nasty
Oh that's extremely odd..... I didn't know it was so bad.. I don't know what it might be. I've never had that happen.. It is cycled yeah?


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yeah its definitely cycled. its like a normal surface film, but 2x as dense. its not like and measurable thickness, but it is enough to not break from the surface ripling
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take a paper towel about as big as the tanks surface lay it on, and take it off. it will remove the majority of the film with it.
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take a paper towel about as big as the tanks surface lay it on, and take it off. it will remove the majority of the film with it.
it just comes back eventually. but that does help! i will do that periodically if it gets bad! i forgot about that!!
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do you have a surface skimmer? thats a permanent and 100% effective solution, though they arent too pretty.
also i had a bad experience with one and a juvinile betta (about 1" long) that tried to swim through it and got stuck and died. i doubt an adult would fit in at all though.
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do you have a surface skimmer? thats a permanent and 100% effective solution, though they arent too pretty.
also i had a bad experience with one and a juvinile betta (about 1" long) that tried to swim through it and got stuck and died. i doubt an adult would fit in at all though.
no i dont, haha. they are definitely bulky and ugly, so im not going that route, lol. i might try leaving the water level low when i do water changes so it get oxygenate the water. thats what Frank suggests in his journal
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Small airstone?

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oddly enough, i woke up this morning, and for the most part, its gone! haha! i think its because i intentionally let the water get a little low to that the outflow could break the surface more.

next problem to tackle are these diatomas and hair algae:\
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Light period, extra nutrients and feeding habits should fix you there.


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the light period is 8 hours i believe. ill have to double check. i dont have a fertilizer other then what nutrients are in the used eco-complete. and i only feed what he eats, if he misses one, i fish it out.
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