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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 07-12-2012, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
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Ada 45f 56k

So I'm going off to college this year and I realized I wouldn't be able to bring my 60P or Mini-L
Just keeping it maintenance and dragging buckets of water was unrealistic.
So i chose the 45F because of a few reasons, its only a 4.6 gallon tank, maybe even less when I put rocks in. Also, the low height allows me to maintenance the tank and keep my hands dry. It will be low enough to where I can leave it on the desk and be able to work on it with ease of access. The 45F also allows shrimp to have more roaming space, it is literally a Mini-L, but shorter.

Tank:
ADA 45-F (4.6 gallons)

Substrate:
Aqua Soil normal and powder

Equipment:
Eheim 2213, might choose different filtration if too much
Fishneedit 2x24watt (using only 1 bulb)
Hydor Inline heater

Flora:
HC
Saturogyne Repens
Don't know what else to add

Fauna:
CRS/CBS

Water:
Dragging 5 gallon buckets of water form grocery store :p


I ordered the tank 7/11 at 1am and it came 7/12 12pm. lol
props to AFA

EXCITED
This thing was packed TIGHT!








Added some fertilizers, just seeing if it will cause an algae explosion or plant explosion




Now I wait till i get some rocks, my HC comes in, and i will add layer of powder on top of it too!

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Beautiful tank. You're making me want one now

But dude, I have blazing fast internet connection, and this thread took over 4 minutes to load (as opposed to 15-20 seconds usually)?!!

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Nice tank! can't wait to see it with water
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post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 07-14-2012, 05:05 AM Thread Starter
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haha, get one!!!
really? i went on my iphone and it loaded pretty quick

me too!
i dont know if i should dsm or not....

UPDATE
Made diy lil pipes today, my real ones are too big for this tank
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58mbps download / 8mbps upload over here, everything loaded instantly, granted due to the file size my browser chugs a little when I scroll through the pictures. Nice setup, these flat tanks are pretty cool. Interested in seeing what those ferts do for ya. Kiran, if this took me 4 minutes to load I'd be scared to check my download speed!

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thanks!
maybe i will resize the pics

anyone have any comments if i should try dsm?
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oh and iPhones auto resize the files, not just the pictures. It loads maybe even quicker on my iPhone, and the browser doesn't even hiccup when scrolling passed the pics.

dry start method is easier, but boring. my opinion of course.
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it is boring! i just watch foggy glass for a few months lol

What if i flood my water with co2 and a bunch of light, there can't be too much of a difference in time could it?
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it is boring! i just watch foggy glass for a few months lol

What if i flood my water with co2 and a bunch of light, there can't be too much of a difference in time could it?
My opinion of course, dry start is for the lazy Flooded start, if done correctly grows far far quicker under the right conditions, and there's always that large chance that after filling a DSM that you will get some melt, if not total melt, as they transition from emmersed to submersed states. Can't tell you how many beautiful DSM scapes I've seen melt into nothing after being filled, as something wasn't balanced enough for their transition. Non DSM may be more challenging due to algae and ecological balance, but it's far more rewarding if done correctly. As long as you know how to correctly balance light, CO2, and ferts properly, I see no point in DSM unless you won't have the time to tend to a flooded start, which can often be a significant amount of work, if say you're going on a vacation or work is hectic ect.

If you have the time and "know-how", skip the DSM imho.

Just my 2 cents. After 6 years of making successful scapes, none of which were DSM, then observing the downfalls of DSM in the forum, I'd say DSM should be left to those who don't have the time or patience to deal with a cycling flooded start.
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My opinion of course, dry start is for the lazy Flooded start, if done correctly grows far far quicker under the right conditions, and there's always that large chance that after filling a DSM that you will get some melt, if not total melt, as they transition from emmersed to submersed states. Can't tell you how many beautiful DSM scapes I've seen melt into nothing after being filled, as something wasn't balanced enough for their transition. Non DSM may be more challenging due to algae and ecological balance, but it's far more rewarding if done correctly. As long as you know how to correctly balance light, CO2, and ferts properly, I see no point in DSM unless you won't have the time to tend to a flooded start, which can often be a significant amount of work, if say you're going on a vacation or work is hectic ect.

If you have the time and "know-how", skip the DSM imho.

Just my 2 cents. After 6 years of making successful scapes, none of which were DSM, then observing the downfalls of DSM in the forum, I'd say DSM should be left to those who don't have the time or patience to deal with a cycling flooded start.
Thanks for the feedback!
I was researching both and couldn't decide what I should do
For sure, i feel like im comfortable with algae now, I've beat it once and it has never come back to any of my tanks
I bought the hc grown emersed
but as long as i keep the light controlled and pack the water with co2 and keep my water changes going, i should be good
My hc comes today, I've failed growing hc once so lets see how this one goes

And wheres the fun if you don't do anything for a few months ahahaha

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Dry starting definitely isn't for "lazy" people. Some of the best aquascapers on earth use that method.

Some of the pros: small foreground plants that you want to take root before flooding with water, allowing plants to grow in thickly so everything looks great once flooded, to prevent substrate from shifting around (because of root bases).
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P.S. I'm excited to see how this tank turns out.
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post #13 of 29 (permalink) Old 07-16-2012, 12:01 AM Thread Starter
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thanks somewhatshocked
i didnt me to offend you, just messing around hahah


UPDATE 7/15

powersand :0


HC came in the mail, looks fab. thanks to nilocg



planting :/




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now we wait

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Huh? Definitely no offense taken!

I'm just excited to see how this turns out and it's looking nice so far.
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I love this tank. This and the 60F. Can't wait to see the HC fill in; it's also refreshing to not see a dry start with HC, since that seems to be the fad these days.


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