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Very impressive bud. This is going to be worth every cent you put into it.
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That tank is going to be a HC farm. You can make a mint putting the trimmings on SNS.

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Just read all 14 pages of your build and I love all the high tech! Can't wait for updates. What group of fish are going to be your main focus for this tank?
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Love the look. Reminds me of an arrested lava flow on an ocean beach that is in the process of recovery.

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Wow nice! that's a lot of HC!
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That tank is going to be a HC farm. You can make a mint putting the trimmings on SNS.
Make a mint? Good because I paid a mint.

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Just read all 14 pages of your build and I love all the high tech! Can't wait for updates. What group of fish are going to be your main focus for this tank?
Funny because compared to my reef tank this setup is way low tech. But I get what you mean. Thanks. I've gone over and over what fish I would like and I always come back to Cardinals. They got to be small and colorful. I am going to get some cool shrimp, somewhere.

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Love the look. Reminds me of an arrested lava flow on an ocean beach that is in the process of recovery.
The tank really looks so much better in person. It's so big that trying to take a FTS the detail gets lost. I am still shooting with a iPhone tho. Time to bust out the SLR. I've decided to do the dry start thing. at least for a little bit. I had a Repto Fogger laying around to make it easier. We'll see how it turns out.
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when all of that fills in it will look amazing! great job!
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I have read through this before. Glad you got everything started. I think Cardinals would be a great choice. They are my favorite fish though. They complement larger fish well, be it something like German Blue Ram's to Discus. I would consider a school of rummy nose as well. Even I don't find them to be particular attractive in terms of color but their behavior is nice.

Anyway, glad to see how this turned out. Love the stand, love the lighting setup and how you actually ran the cords through the pipe, etc.
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Have you considered moss as a transition between the lava and the white sand? Small Lava rocks, 1.5' dia can be used and wrapped in moss.

These can be grown in a terrarium like tray and misted with tank water etc.
After 2 weeks or so, the moss will be well attached.
Do not like it? Take them out and sell them.

Low risk.

If you want to add moss to the rocks, the DSM is the time to do this.
Blender some Fissidens and paint brush on the lava, the effect after about 1-2 weeks is real nice.

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when all of that fills in it will look amazing! great job!
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I have read through this before. Glad you got everything started. I think Cardinals would be a great choice. They are my favorite fish though. They complement larger fish well, be it something like German Blue Ram's to Discus. I would consider a school of rummy nose as well. Even I don't find them to be particular attractive in terms of color but their behavior is nice.

Anyway, glad to see how this turned out. Love the stand, love the lighting setup and how you actually ran the cords through the pipe, etc.
Thank you. Other then the clean up crew fish. I'll probably just stick with just one type. I wish I could find fish that were smaller then Cardinals.

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Have you considered moss as a transition between the lava and the white sand? Small Lava rocks, 1.5' dia can be used and wrapped in moss.

These can be grown in a terrarium like tray and misted with tank water etc.
After 2 weeks or so, the moss will be well attached.
Do not like it? Take them out and sell them.

Low risk.

If you want to add moss to the rocks, the DSM is the time to do this.
Blender some Fissidens and paint brush on the lava, the effect after about 1-2 weeks is real nice.
I'm trying the DSM based on your suggestion. The folks at Aqua Forest didn't recommend it. They said people had issues with mold or fungus. Just like saltwater there are several ways to achieve success. I did just get a par meter the other day. You had recommended turning my lights down to a par of 50? Was that suggestion for the DSM or for all the time? I'm going to try the moss paint brush method. I love that idea.

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Thanks. I like to experiment with different things.
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I'm trying the DSM based on your suggestion. The folks at Aqua Forest didn't recommend it. They said people had issues with mold or fungus. Just like saltwater there are several ways to achieve success. I did just get a par meter the other day. You had recommended turning my lights down to a par of 50? Was that suggestion for the DSM or for all the time? I'm going to try the moss paint brush method. I love that idea.



Thanks. I like to experiment with different things.
I guess the DSM does not somehow.........also apply to Wabi Kusa either eh?
They recommend that.

If you cannot grow a terrarium I suppose I would not recommend it
I've never had issues with mold of fungus and if you do...it's because the tank is too sealed up, it needs to be a little vented and dry. Ignorance and failure are not good reasons not to recommend something. It's simply because Amano did not tell them to do it. If Amano came out with an article tomorrow, every ADA dealer would be singing the praises.

You can crank the light till you flood the tank though.

AFA's 180 p has around 40-50 umol along the bottom of the sediment, they had some HC doing well in there, Gloss and E. tennellus. So it grows fine at that umol. Also, since the tank has no plants on the front, pull the lights back towards the rear. 12-14" is a good height. You might have 50-70 umol since the tank's rear is higher.

This is fine.

Moss works great, this came from a long time ago when we needed to moss a bridge with stone and the stone was harsh looking. We blended the moss in water and milk and slapped it on in the spring while it was cool/moist. It took real quick. For aquariums, just 10 sec and in tank water with some light ferts.

Mist daily.

Make sure there is some air, release, blow out the tank once a day etc. Do not leave it tightly sealed.

This is true for terrariums and Crypts etc.

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Thank you. Other then the clean up crew fish. I'll probably just stick with just one type. I wish I could find fish that were smaller then Cardinals.
You could try green neon tetras, stays about half the size of a cardinal but still has that full blue stripe
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You could try green neon tetras, stays about half the size of a cardinal but still has that full blue stripe
I considered them. Wikipedia say Cardinals get 1.25" and GNT get to 1". For the color difference I favor the Cardinals.
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