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post #106 of 129 (permalink) Old 12-16-2012, 05:16 AM Thread Starter
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During the first 6 months or so, I had shimp, oto's and tetra's jump out of the tank at different times. Lately though, nothing has tried to escape so I added 3 more oto cats to help with algae.

I also started 2 wabi kusa yesterday. Might start a new thread on those.
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Yeah, HC is a wonderful plant...for a short time and then it will grow so thick that if you are not constantly thinning it out, it will grow so thickly that it will literally suffocate the plant stems beneath it. PITA after a while, but in the beginning, oh man is it beautiful to have and see!
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Really loving the algae on your rocks. Looks really natural and provides a nice pop.
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I am sure it will look great when the DHG fills in, nothing like a mixed carpet.
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post #110 of 129 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 01:45 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks all. I think when I rescape this tank (ETA undecided), I'll avoid HC and give glosso a try. It seems like it's a more manageable plant to maintain.

On second thought, I've been seeing some great white sand foreground scapes that have been catching my eye lately. Might just have to start another tank instead. Then there's the nano reef idea too...
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Thanks all. I think when I rescape this tank (ETA undecided), I'll avoid HC and give glosso a try. It seems like it's a more manageable plant to maintain.

On second thought, I've been seeing some great white sand foreground scapes that have been catching my eye lately. Might just have to start another tank instead. Then there's the nano reef idea too...
I think gloss is a much easier plant to handle in the long term; But I have wanted to try out a nano sand set up for the longest time, but never have gotten around to it.
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you should try out elatine hydropiper if you can find it, mini glosso
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post #113 of 129 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 06:38 PM
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Glosso has the same problem -- let it grow over itself long enough and eventually what's underneath will die off. While you can let glosso grow to over an inch thick before this starts to happen, you also have to remember that glosso grows MUCH faster than HC.

At the end of the day, it's still necessary to mow glosso down every 4-6 weeks (depending on how fast it grows in the tank) to keep it low, compact, and healthy.

Elocharis 'Belem' - I only have a few months worth of experience with this plant, but so far in my tank, I've been able to plant it and left it as is for several months without having to trim. I think due to its leaves being very thin, it takes a very long time to have it get dense enough to get anything shadowed. Like I said, I'm still new to this plant, but right now my opinion is it's much less work than HC or glosso.

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I'll look into that, thanks. I haven't played around with stem plants in a while, so I might go that route with driftwood. I like the thick forrest-of-stems look that Amano always does.
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I'll look into that, thanks. I haven't played around with stem plants in a while, so I might go that route with driftwood. I like the thick forrest-of-stems look that Amano always does.
Thick bushes of stem plants also involve similar repetitive work -- constant trimming make it grow "bushy". Just like with carpet plants, the thicker it gets, the bigger the chances of the bottom portions getting shaded and dying off.

The upside -- stem plants are usually just in "sections", and is MUCH easier to trim than any low carpet plant

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I also started 2 wabi kusa yesterday. Might start a new thread on those.


lets see them!!!!!!
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lets see them!!!!!!
Here they are!

The ball is made from sphagnum moss wrapped around 2-4 marbles (for weight) and a small amount of Turface for water retention.

Plants are hydrocotyle sib., rotala indica, HC, DHG, and java moss. All wrapped with dark green thread. Lighting is a 23W CFL on for 12h/day.

I'd like to give a shout out to geniusdudekiran for inspiration. He has some great threads and even better pictures of his Wabi kusa.
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fantastic! i like the way you have the tank in the background of the pics! i really like the hydrocotyle sib. I did much the same thing for mine, although i didnt use terface.
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I thought I saw someone use akadama inside a wabi kusa online. Turface is extremely similar, as well as cheaper ($20 for a 50 lb bag). I use it for bonsai as well and it seems to work great for that so I thought to give it a shot.

The hydrocotyle is taking well to the transition from submersed to emersed and the Rotala is starting to grow towards the light. This small project didnt cost much and I'm happy with the results so far.
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I thought I saw someone use akadama inside a wabi kusa online. Turface is extremely similar, as well as cheaper ($20 for a 50 lb bag). I use it for bonsai as well and it seems to work great for that so I thought to give it a shot.

The hydrocotyle is taking well to the transition from submersed to emersed and the Rotala is starting to grow towards the light. This small project didnt cost much and I'm happy with the results so far.
thats what ive seen, as well as aquasoil. i didnt use anything in the three i did.. i may try using a bit of aquasoil now that i have it. we'll see.

its a great plant!! i used to have some but i stupidly sold it all i really wanna get some again, its great for all kinds of things!! i havent seen it for sale anywhere though
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