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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-19-2012, 01:09 PM Thread Starter
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fluval edge -white cloud mountain minnow biotope

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first post here, so hello

not had a tank for over a year now, the itch was coming back, sadly we have no room in our two bed for a larger tank, so i decided on a nano, the edge seems to fit the bill perfect.

will post pics up soon

i want to have a super clean and low cost setup, i would love to do marine, but dont have the time/money to give it the propper dedication, same goes for co2 and ferts really,

while i would love to do something like this:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5068/...3f25cc8cfe.jpg

im thinking id need more lighting and co2+ferts, umm not sure as i do like it,

so was thinking cold water minnows

like this:



if anyone has any info on planted nanos though id be happy to listen if i could achieve the above

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-19-2012, 03:36 PM
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If ALL you had in your tank was HC like the pic you attached, I don't think you'd need CO2 or crazy lighting... it will just grow in a lot slower than with CO2 and you might want to grow it emersed first.
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post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-19-2012, 04:43 PM Thread Starter
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thats what i though, i knew it grew in pretty much any conditions haha

whats the correct name fo hc?
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Hemmianthus callitrichoides.

While the attached picture is of an Edge aquarium you definitely would need to upgrade the lighting if you want the same results. If you hunt down the thread that is originally from you can see the mad DIY LED upgrade that guy built.

If you want something similar, but low maintenance, no CO2 and barely and ferts you should consider mosses. That's what I've been doing with my Edge... the link is in my sig, take a look

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although... if you are set on a biotope for minnows, a non-planted setup would be more accurate... though I'm not sure how white clouds would do long term in and Edge, I would think that they'd like more room to dart about.

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post #6 of 30 (permalink) Old 01-19-2012, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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thanks for the reply, i have the upgraded led bulbs already, but may make a day time rig for while im out, i do still have stuff left over from my planted days,

i have heard of liquid c02 but never used it, same with home made ferts,

i used to have a heavily planted tank, with co2 and daily dosing etc

resulted in this:





i have been and bought my substrate and some nice stone for it, stuff it im going planted haha

i wanted to stay cold water thats all, regarding the minnows,

i have a link to the thread, it was a good idea but no finished pic of the tank,

any other carpet verieties of plant that would do well.???
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although... if you are set on a biotope for minnows, a non-planted setup would be more accurate... though I'm not sure how white clouds would do long term in and Edge, I would think that they'd like more room to dart about.
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George's white cloud biotope, which was posted above, got dinged by the judges because it should have contained plants.
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shame, it does look nice,

im 100% on a iwagumi scaped tank now,

i just need to find a plant that will carpet using the stock led bulbs, and a co2 liquid fert.

i may/will make a light bar that can be put on the tank, during the day for when im out, this will give good light wattage for 6hrs or so and then when im home can be hidden and just the led's used while im home,

i see glosso and hc are quite hard to grow, i also want to start submerged as apposed to growing it without water, im just struggling a little on a good plant, as being in the uk stockists being local are few and far between..
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could some one id the moss and the grass please

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I have (6) White Clouds and a Pygmy Cory in a 6G LED.

They all seem to be thriving at room temp which is great because I do not want a heater in that tank.

Play sand, small piece of driftwood, a few stones, Java Fern and Java Moss.

Minimalist approach for me and the White Clouds were a great fit.
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thats good to know, i do like them for a cold water fish, its that or gold fish haha

im still so torn between a nice river set up or a planted tank, i have the tools to do both now,

im just not sure if hairgrass and java moss will do well in a tank with only led lighting and no co2 injection,,
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Crypt parva is doing well for me in a LED tank. It isn't a carpeting plant, as such, but a nice low, small plant. A group of them could give you a nice look, or even a single one as an accent along with the rocks. Java moss will grow just about anywhere
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im thinking something like this:



top and front view, this way i keep the carpeting plant under the more intese light, and still get a nice feel, im just unsure of which carpet plant to use or do i use a moss, i do have brown substrate and sand to use so can use both i would love hc, but i dont think it would grow,

opinions needed from the more experienced
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Stuck to my first though and went with river rock. I dont have time to commit to plants. As much as I would like them. Although the upgraded led bulbs are bright.
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