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post #16 of 209 (permalink) Old 01-25-2012, 03:19 AM Thread Starter
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Well sort of...

I Sprinkled it all over the substrate and pressed it down a bit.

I've had good results with this method in the past so lets hope it works.



I am injecting co2 into the tank, drop checker is bright yellow right now, but in this picture its green.

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Wow! I am really looking forward to see how this set up is going to turn out, keep em updates coming!
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Threads like this make me wish I had room to do an "ADA-style Iwagumi" tank.

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Day 2 of the HC Grow In.

Much of the HC is putting down roots, and the buds on the ends of the stems have gotten larger and started facing towards the light.

You can also see that my water level is non existent, there is only condensation.
All the soil is moist, the glass is moist, the HC is moist - but there is no standing water.
This is so I have very very little to worry about as far as algae - I have gotten hair algae during a dry start that killed everything.

I've also had root rot - don't ask me how an aquatic plant gets root rot.. I have no idea .

I also believe the roots have access to more oxygen this way, and I think that helps also.






Very low water level - practically no standing water.



New roots.


New root dead center - can you spot it?


Another new root dead center up against the glass, very short, but its on it way into the ground!


Another new root

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Has anyone else tried the sprinkle method?
Last time I had a lot more die off but this time everything seems to be doing just fine - I wonder if its the co2 i injected into the tank.
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Wow I never tried sprinkle method. But I did "press" down my HC with my fingers, after planting it with tweezer.
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Wow I never tried sprinkle method. But I did "press" down my HC with my fingers, after planting it with tweezer.
Yea I've found that burying the hc is only needed if you are going to flood the tank.
It will gladly take root just laying on the surface if everything is kept moist enough.
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You do not want a really good seal, some air needs to exchange, HC can handle lower humidity eg, 50% RH, adding CO2 does not help really either.

Best to log with 1-2 week interval pics.

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You do not want a really good seal, some air needs to exchange, HC can handle lower humidity eg, 50% RH, adding CO2 does not help really either.

Best to log with 1-2 week interval pics.
I do a spray every other day which should provide plenty of air exchange - I keep co2 at around 500ppm - can't hurt anything and can only benefit - no reason to have lower humidity, not even sure how I would target that as a goal - thanks for your input - I'll be doing photo updates every 2-4 days at the beginning to log root development and then every 5-7 days after root development isn't worth logging.

At the end I'll post the longer interval pics in one post.

Thanks Tom, what do you think about doing a dry start with no standing water? Do you think there is much to gain out of increasing root o2 and decreasing risk of root rot or substrate algae?

Also I am not paying any attention to measuring relative humidity - I dont keep tree frogs anymore so I dont even own a humidity monitor - besides mine always read 100 percent no matter what. I think for my method which doesn't involve any substrate burying (sprinkled shreds of HC)it is important to keep enough humidity that the leaves stay moist - none of my hc is under the soil - it is all sprinkled on top so increasing co2 should close the stomata, decrease water loss, and allow me to have less water to increase root o2 and decrease risk of root rot or any other sort of moisture dependent root/leaf pests.
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I cut out little foam inserts for the holes the lily pipes come through.

I'll make slits for the hoses to go through once the dry start is over.

This is so my mechanical timer isn't as noisy.





More roots today - this one has gone from 1 to 3.



Here is a picture actually showing the cabinet and my messy floor.
Flash washes out the color - it's much darker than that really.
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Day 8


Roots are getting deep!



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Very cool! Looking forward to how this one pans out.

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Very nice aquarium you have there. I really like your stand as well.

I actually have the same stone in my aquarium right now along with HC so we are pretty similar flora wise! I need to get my CO2 going though and my rocks take up 80% or so of the room in the aquarium.

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Yea I had a hard time with rock placement, most of the rocks are very buried because I was trying to create an eroded monolithic look.
In the end I ended up sacrificing some of what I wanted visually for what I thought would be the most appealing to everyone else, which I actually feel bad about now, but I think I will like it in the end.

I might put some S. Repens in the back right of the tank.

Anybody think that would look okay?
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Very nice aquarium you have there. I really like your stand as well.

I actually have the same stone in my aquarium right now along with HC so we are pretty similar flora wise! I need to get my CO2 going though and my rocks take up 80% or so of the room in the aquarium.

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dood it would be cool if you have a tripod, take pictures of the same frame everyday, then silde shows over 3 weeks period!
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