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post #31 of 50 (permalink) Old 04-26-2012, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
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Haha I knew that was coming
The rotala wont stop creeping so I dont think it would suffice as a midground. Kinda out of room though in that area too. Wish it was a 75 gallon and not 55, 12 inches is hard to work with.
Does your rotala green creep too?
Im sure it will look better once the right side grows back in. the new piece of wood might not stay either if the plants dont look full enough on that side. Probably finish sinking it somewhere else and let studf get growing before I put it back it just seemed like a good idea at the time. im gonna trim the left too so the right doesnt look so diminished. just didnt want to do it all at once and cause a big bloom.
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tsk, tsk, tsk!

yeah, all of my rotalas creep first, then send more vertical growth shortly there after. I would say trim it to see if it will send vertical shoots up, or you could try shortenimg the photoperiod. Or, better yet, cut down on your burst time.

I'm tellin' you, Bro: that crypt added a touch o' wild to the tank. Everything looks a little better a touch overgrown.
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Dont tell me what I already know man! As soon as I compared photos I was like, oh no what have I done.
Im the first one to tell people their overgrown tank looks sweet too... I dont know what to do now... Put it back? Wouldnt be that hard, lucens dont really melt bad, especially when its going back where it came from. Im torn now. I like how it looked but Im not sure I will like how this turns out.

oh yeah and my photoperiod is only 8 hours. No burst actually have a 4 hrs siesta in the middle
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I know the feeling. overgrown tanks look really nice, but when its your own its like omfg I need to trim it. I really like the left side of the tank though. dont ever change it! :p
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I love the left too. Im sure it will all come back together, just have to get over the shock of over grown to half empty.
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Perhaps you will take advice from some of us more "learn-ed" persons, kwheeler91, who REPEATEDLY warned you about removing the lucens in the first place. Just kidding around Bro. It just looks a little empty to me now, is all. I would say commit to your vision and see what you can do with the new DW and space in that area. You can always do the "safe" thing and put it back, but that would be a little lame now. Brainstorm a bit and come up with something new!

Surprised to hear that the rotala creeps with a relatively minimal photoperiod and with a four hour break!! Your light must be pretty friggin' intense when it is on!! Try trimming the creeping edges off and see how it responds....maybe you can train it to grow upwards.

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NO!!!! I can't believe that you got rid of my crypt, Man!! :p

looks good.....perhaps a little "empty" now, though? You should keep the rotala, but move it to a midground location. It will look better when you add the MM.
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Perhaps you will take advice from some of us more "learn-ed" person, kwheeler91, who REPEATEDLY warned you about removing the lucens in the first place. Just kidding around Bro. It just looks a little empty to me now, is all. I would say commit to your vision and see what you can do with the new DW and space in that area. You can always do the "safe" thing and put it back, but that would be a little lame now. Brainstorm a bit and come up with something new!

Surprised to hear that the rotala creeps with a relatively minimal photoperiod and with a four hour break!! Your light must be pretty friggin' intense when it is on!! Try trimming the creeping edges off and see how it responds....maybe you can train it to grow upwards.
Im gonna sell it off so I dont get tempted to replace it I have a couple ideas of what to do, depends on how the palustris looks. It would redden up with some more light which is why I want to change my bulbs, they are like 3yrs old lol, the fixture is only a 2 x 54w glo not that intense. Either that or try some L. repens instead. If the mystery stem I have turns out to be prospernica or however its spelled I have another plan too. I just get impatient waiting on growth and have to wait for the vesuvius to acclimate since its not from my tanks. what I would give for a good co2 set up...
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Hmmm....you could jam pack that baby with some narrow-leaf or Phillipine java fern instead, along with a ton of anubias. I like the idea of the L. Repens along with a nice bunch of L. sp. 'Red' that you already have in there. Get some smaller, rarer crypts. Presto, Bro. Presto. Yes, you will need to change your bulbs. Good Lord=3 yr. old bulbs???!!! LOL!
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I did the fern thing for a while, just sold 80 bucks worth of nljf and then a bunch of regular and tropica stuff I had. my forty gallon was all crypts and ferns just got tired of it, thus the stems. I may try the nature aquarium look one day, but not until i have a pressurized set up and a better tank to do it in.The anubias I have in there are algified, not enough co2 for that unless they were tucked away under something. I do want to get some pricier crypts just dont have the funds atm. Maybe when I get to collecting some darters speedie will still want to trade me some of his

Dont hate on my bulbs, they are growing me some pretty nice plants right now lol
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Trimmed the rest. Doesnt look so out of whack now. Thinking about removing the big red wendtii in the middle and replacing it with pinnatifida. Also in the process of getting some keei. It will either go on the left, replacing the undulata or the right, replacing the tropica crypt.






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Keep the C. wendtii and just add the H. pinnatifida, I tried growing it and it all died and I know it's a pottasium pig and likes a rich substrate too. I was going to ask you about the Baylees better bottom substrate because it looks like just tiny river stone and I'm suprised to see your plants doing so well.

BTW, I love Rocko he is a really cool looking dog annd I think he could be the long lost brother to Fredo, this is his pup photo, he's 4 now and is almost completely black.


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Haha thanks. Is fredo there an acd/acd mix too or a blue tick? Floppy ears are throwing me off.
Baylees better bottom, sold by a guy on aquabid whos name I cant remember. I dont think he runs auctions anymore but I could give you his email and he will probably sell you some.

He was a plants guy, claims this mix grows plants well and contains traces of all the nutrients needed, micros anyway I think, to grow plants. It has always worked really well for me. I have never tried any other plant substrates so I cant compare but I grew crypts stems and what not with little to no supplements, depending on lighting, for quite a while. I now dose ei and use root tabs too. I like this stuff because it looks good and you can vacuum it without it going up the tube. He had it in a smaller sandlike grain size as well.
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Just moved into my new apartment. Had to uproot all the plants to catch the fish so I took the opportunity to do some rescaping. Only time will tell how it will turn out, needs a little filling in. I have a few pics of how it looked right before the move that I will post tomorrow if I find the camera they are on. Thinking about starting a new journal for the new scape with a cleaned up timeline of the tank, maybe some pics older than this thread to show my progress as a planted tanker from noob to less of a noob
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Thar she is in the last days before the move. The L. palustris was swapped for L. lacustris x brevipes or something like that. I liked it and wish I had a little more time for it to grow but life happens



Be sure to check out the new yet familar scape in the journal once its posted
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Looks good kwheeler! You have already progressed from "Noob" to "less of a Noob" with this setup. your next tank will be even better! especially if you leave the crypts alone!! lol!!

Good luck with the move buddy!
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