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post #16 of 442 (permalink) Old 12-04-2011, 01:47 PM Thread Starter
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Its cute!
But i must urge you to upgrage her tank to something more like a thirty gallon.....i have read that while in a small tank that when goldfish stop growing their organs continue to grow...=/ im not sure if its true though.
Her fungus/parasite could most likely be cause by the size of her tank.
A goldfish that size produces so much ammonia, that tank probaly needs whater changes once a day or more to keep up with her bioload. Bad water quality leads to sickness....and yada yada yada.

Im not being mean, or trying to lecture you, i have been in the same shoes as you. Im only trying to educate.

A good substitute for a tank for her, if you dont have one on hand or the money to buy one at the time is a large rubbermaid container from walmart or some other big box store. Just reinforce the sides a bit add a filter and tadaw....goldfish tank!

The gab.org is a great site to help educate about goldfish, they are really friendly when it comes to newcomes who need help. They even have a sick fish forum and probably will be able to help you with what ever is going on with Dorthy!

Please dont think im trying to be mean or judgemental, i know how it feels for someone to tell you your doing everything wrong, if you have any questions id be happy to answer them for you!

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Jasmine's advice is dead on. Plants to use up the fish waste are good. More room is better -- the larger the volume of water, the less likely the parameters are to get dangerous in an instant. (I just moved my fantail from a 10g to a 40g). The GAB has excellent information, definitely it's a great source for learning about goldfish. Your ryukin will be much happier and you'll enjoy her even more than you already do.

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Its cute!
But i must urge you to upgrage her tank to something more like a thirty gallon.....i have read that while in a small tank that when goldfish stop growing their organs continue to grow...=/ im not sure if its true though.
Her fungus/parasite could most likely be cause by the size of her tank.
A goldfish that size produces so much ammonia, that tank probaly needs whater changes once a day or more to keep up with her bioload. Bad water quality leads to sickness....and yada yada yada.

Im not being mean, or trying to lecture you, i have been in the same shoes as you. Im only trying to educate.

A good substitute for a tank for her, if you dont have one on hand or the money to buy one at the time is a large rubbermaid container from walmart or some other big box store. Just reinforce the sides a bit add a filter and tadaw....goldfish tank!

The gab.org is a great site to help educate about goldfish, they are really friendly when it comes to newcomes who need help. They even have a sick fish forum and probably will be able to help you with what ever is going on with Dorthy!

Please dont think im trying to be mean or judgemental, i know how it feels for someone to tell you your doing everything wrong, if you have any questions id be happy to answer them for you!

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Yep I just read about the stunting symptom. Planning to get a pond or just return back the fish to lfs... Thanks for your info sharing.
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Yea, im sorry you got bumbarded...it happens, goldfish are really misunderstood =[ you could put her in a rubermaid and then build a pond!
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Nice set up. I love your fish.

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Thanks, i haven't put them in their new setup yet, i've got them in their old 30 gallon for a week or so to let the plant settle in a maybe grow some roots.
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Thanks, i haven't put them in their new setup yet, i've got them in their old 30 gallon for a week or so to let the plant settle in a maybe grow some roots.
So when is the time?

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Probably around Wednesday or Thursday, that would be a week from when i planted it, i just want the plants to kinda be able to hold their own if they get picked on!

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Am thinkin' most of your plants will go unmolested by the fish. You know my vals are fine, and I read that most big leaved plants are too tough for golds to eat. Not so sure about the pennywort or the water sprite, though. Am waiting with great anticipation to see if they eat those because they are the two best nutrient exporters and the two I think are most likely to be eaten. They are both on my potential list of fast growing stems for my tank. I hope all of your plants make it. It's a great chance to learn a lot about goldfish friendly plants all at once. Oh wait, MJ said his(her?) fish destroyed his(her?) amazon sword... fingers crossed on that one.

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Yea, my fingers are crossed too!
I really want them to grow big, i really like the look of them when they get that size!
Ha ha, i will post pics of the tank before i put them in, to compare if they do any damage...lol.
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Yeah yeah. Before and after introduction of evil (cute) fish.

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I have watersprite and pennywort, and they've both survived so far. Mine will uproot the watersprite if I put it where she can get at the roots, so I stuck is between some driftwood and it wasn't uprooted again. As for the pennywort (which I adore), she'll nibble at occasionally, and has torn up several leaves, but the thing grows so fast the overall plant hasn't suffered and has gotten much bigger since I put it in the tank. She doesn't touch my argentinian sword, either, but I've never tried amazon. Actually, the only plants I've tried so far that haven't worked have been java moss and subwassertang, those were both nibbled into a huge mess and had to be taken out.

A lot probably depends on the individual fish, though. Good luck!
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Hey Squid, I really like the look of pennywort. I understand that it needs medium light to grow fast. Do you think it is a good nitrate eating leaf feeder compared to, say, Cabomba.

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Probably around Wednesday or Thursday, that would be a week from when i planted it, i just want the plants to kinda be able to hold their own if they get picked on!
By my calculations -- since it's Thursday -- you should be busily at work on this just about now. And then we'd like to see

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Ha ha, yes, except I think I'm going to wait till I can watch them more closely, I have to work today and Friday but get out at three on Saturday and I will be able to put them in there and watch them so I'm shooting for Saturday now. It isn't such a bad thing though, gives the plants longer to get comfortable and root!
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