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post #61 of 141 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 02:17 AM Thread Starter
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Soon you'll get bored of all that house and honey stuff and be back focusing on important things like planted tanks.
Exactly

The biggest problem with this tank is that it is out of sight and mind most of the time. I only occupy the den a couple times a month. I need to move it to a centralized location or find more reasons to chill there. Perhaps I need some new toys in there...
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post #62 of 141 (permalink) Old 05-03-2013, 05:04 PM
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How much clearance is there between the tank and the lights?

I have a catalina fixture and the standard coralife legs don't give me enough height

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Hadn't used my D40 since Scotland so I figured I would take some pics of my tank. My attention has been drawn elsewhere lately, but the stems keep growing. I trim when needed and dose weekly.



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beautiful tank! great colors
Thanks! I think my camera gets most of the credit. I have a long ways to go before I'm happy with this tank.
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Fantastic looking tank! Could you post a list of your current plants?
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Fantastic looking tank! Could you post a list of your current plants?
Blyxa japonica
Cryptocoryne wendtii
Cryptocoryne wendtii brown
Cryptocoryne parva
Cryptocoryne willisii
Heteranthera zosterifolia
Hygrophila Corymbosa var Compact
Ludwigia glandulosa
Ludwigia 'Rubin'
Persicaria 'Kawagoeanum'
Persicaria praetermissa
Proserpinaca palustris
Rotala rotundifolia

The plants left in here are survivors. I lost some rare plants when I stopped taking care this tank a few months ago. I left out are some random small pieces of moss and subwassertang.
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Hi,
Wonderful tank !
I like the simple stand you have got. Is it strong enough to hold 40g + substrate and all other contents? Surprised.
I'm also planning for a similar stand. Is itvery sturdy?
Does it shake if we try to? Or is absolutely rigid?
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Tank looks great!

75G; DIY turtle top, Zilla T5/halogen combo, Sunsun 302, Skim350, Aqueon pro, Saftsorb
50G; Aquasun 2xT5HO, Sunsun 302, Aqueon pro, Aquatek CO2 reg, UP aqua atomizer, Saftsorb
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post #70 of 141 (permalink) Old 11-14-2013, 03:03 AM Thread Starter
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Hi,
Wonderful tank !
I like the simple stand you have got. Is it strong enough to hold 40g + substrate and all other contents? Surprised.
I'm also planning for a similar stand. Is itvery sturdy?
Does it shake if we try to? Or is absolutely rigid?
Absolutely rigid? No. However, I've been using this setup for three years in three different homes with varying foot traffic and floor sturdiness.

It works for me because it is almost the exact footprint of a 40 breeder and the weight is spread evenly on the frame. If I remember correctly, each shelf is rated for 700 lbs+ and I think the tank is around 450. It is certainly strong enough to handle the weight but I haven't tried shaking it hard on purpose. I have have bumped in to it a few times but it recovers well and has never given me a reason to worry.

That being said... I would not recommend this stand if you have kids because it may invite climbing and I don't know how it would stand up. Also, remember that it gets its sturdiness from the cross beams so try to spread them out as evenly as possible.

I've been wanting to cover the sides and add doors to the front for a while. Seems simple enough to do on a frame with holes all over it. Maybe I'll make that a winter project.
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I've been contemplating a new light cycle that would increase viewing time and loosely simulate a natural light cycle. It seems people are doing this all the time with dimmable LED fixtures. T5HO's are getting to be old school now, but it's what I have.

I purchased a three bulb T5HO fixture mostly for the spread of the two outer bulbs over a wide tank. These outer bulbs are wired separately from the middle bulb. I experimented with the three bulb noon burst for a while, but I don't remember if it helped much.

>Current light cylce is:
7 hrs - 2 outer bulbs

>New light cycle would be:
2 hrs - 1 bulb - middle
2 hrs - 2 bulbs - outer
1 hr - 3 bulbs - middle+outer
2 hrs - 2 bulbs - outer
2 hrs - 1 bulb - middle
--> 9 hours total

There are a few threads on this subject, but I still have some questions for those that have switched to this type of cycle. Also curious to hear from those that stay away from it for a reason other than hardware limitations.

-Do you notice healthier growth or is it strictly for a longer viewing period?
-Am I opening myself up to increased algae growth because of the extended photoperiod?
-Should my hourly plan above be adjusted?

Bulb choice for the middle bulb is important because it will fill four hours of viewing time. I know this is often personal preference, but...

-If you could only have one T5HO bulb over a colorful tank, which would you choose?
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Beautiful colors. Love the lighting
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post #73 of 141 (permalink) Old 01-28-2014, 02:38 PM
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Tank looks fantastic, congrats! Now I want to move to a soft water region...

T5 bulbs/fixtures are still good. Of course one day you will switch to LED, but until then, they will give you the most even lighting possible, plus you get a nice selection of bulbs and color temps and spectra.

Like you said, it comes down to personal preference, but if there was only one bulb, perhaps something fairly neutral like a Giesemann Midday would be a good choice. I've always had multi-bulb fixtures for that very reason, to get a mix of daylight (6500K), neutral (5000K) and plant grow (pink) bulbs with all their specific pro's and con's. Keep in mind plants don't really care as long as there is some minimum threshold that's satisfied.

And I don't think the increased or reduced or broken up light period has much to do with algae or plant growth... other things like intensity and nutrient availability play a bigger role. One of my tanks is on a 12 hour light period (10-10) and it is pretty much algae free compared to another tank (the big one) with a shorter, staggered light period.

In any case, you seem to keep track of parameters well, so if your changes don't work out as expected, you can further adjust them or go back to how you had it set up originally. If you don't like a 6000K bulb as it's only choice, switch it with a pink grow bulb and see what that does. Easy to do with T5 bulbs!
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Beautiful tank! Blyxa looks awesome , like it has a golden hue to it.
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post #75 of 141 (permalink) Old 01-28-2014, 09:24 PM Thread Starter
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Tank looks fantastic, congrats! Now I want to move to a soft water region...
Ya know, there are always some great deals on property out here... not sure your wife would be on board. But really, it's nice having seasons. Today there is a couple inches of snow on the ground. Weather fluctuations are good for my business but not so much yours.

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Like you said, it comes down to personal preference, but if there was only one bulb, perhaps something fairly neutral like a Giesemann Midday would be a good choice. I've always had multi-bulb fixtures for that very reason, to get a mix of daylight (6500K), neutral (5000K) and plant grow (pink) bulbs with all their specific pro's and con's. Keep in mind plants don't really care as long as there is some minimum threshold that's satisfied.

And I don't think the increased or reduced or broken up light period has much to do with algae or plant growth... other things like intensity and nutrient availability play a bigger role. One of my tanks is on a 12 hour light period (10-10) and it is pretty much algae free compared to another tank (the big one) with a shorter, staggered light period.

In any case, you seem to keep track of parameters well, so if your changes don't work out as expected, you can further adjust them or go back to how you had it set up originally. If you don't like a 6000K bulb as it's only choice, switch it with a pink grow bulb and see what that does. Easy to do with T5 bulbs!
You are right on about the Giesemann Midday. I just messed around with a few combinations and I found the Midday bulb to be the best middle slot option. I didn't know how pleasing it would be to view the tank with lower light intensity.

I just adjusted the timers and decided on Giesemann Aquaflora (red, back) and Catalina 10k (bluish white, front) for the two outer bulbs. The Giesemann Midday (more neutral) is perfect for the middle bulb slot. We'll see how it goes.
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