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Going to try to collect some rain water this week to see if that will help.
That is very interesting..... would like to see how that goes...

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No spawn yet from the Rams . Going to try to collect some rain water this week to see if that will help. I'll add some Oak Leaf tannin tea also. If that doesn't work, I'll turn on the Berry White CD


Berry White CD! haha
How long do you steep your oak leafs to create your tea?
Some keep it long some keep it short. Maybe if you vary it's strength the rams will respond differently?
Or maybe I'm just being silly. Hope it works out for ya!
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I dont wanna interrupt this charming discussion. And by all means, your dog looks very nice. But carnivore defecation is not to be used as fertilizer. Though with the amounts of soy that pet food companies are substituting the meat, your dogs poo should be half -way good to be used as fertilizer.

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LucyLoofa - I steep the Oak Leaves just like one might for tea tp drink. I think there a saturation point in brewing the tea and after that it doesn't matter.
So what will the Oak leaf tea do?

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that is just disgusting
Try being a little less closeminded and actually READ this thread beyond the first post/pictures.

I gotta say, Dogfish, I've been lurking here awhile and this is the most inspiring thread I've seen thus far. Your results are simply amazing! Major props to you, THANK YOU for this
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Just the kind of forward thinking natural substrate information I have been looking for! ('course poo was a surprise) This kind of info is not easy to attain and is often overwhelmed by less than open minded naysayers. You have contributed to inspiring many ideas worthy of testing and also made me check twice and disregard other ideas without learning the hard way.

I really like that you have supported some of my beliefs (and backed 'em up!) that others would refute. You have demonstrated that anything is possible if you provide the right balance and take the right precautions.

Thanks for this thread, the link to if from another site, the inspiration, knowledge and experience that you have provided! That charity camera drive is a good idea too.

lol - Cause you don't own a horse!

I think the BARF diet is providing plenty of iron to the substrate as well. Natural, high protein foods are often a good source of iron.
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I have been wondering about alternative substrate sources (never even considered poo), specifically mixing sources that could eliminate or reduce the need for chemical fertilizer additives.

The benefits of dirt, peat, sand, dry leaves/compost etc. is undeniable when carried out properly. I have found this is still lacking iron and possibly other trace nutrients. Safe poo does fit the void (I'd cook it longer), but I don't have a dog (lol) and don't trust someone else's judgement of the safety of their dog's poo. Cat poo is not appropriate. I have been considering sources such as beans, nuts (be careful), seeds, etc. Feeding live, high protein foods (eg mice) is always a great source of iron, but my lil fishies won't be feeding on that.

Any wisdom you could share for considering non poo alternatives to the substrate?
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