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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-07-2005, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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Hi folks here is an anomoly. I have 33 gallon tank that is setup for hillstream loaches like this

It also has 2 ac 200's with double sponges.
I has a light fish load. Lighting is one powerglo 25 watt 24/7. No co2 AND NO FERTS other than food.
Thing is I have plants I don't need but did not want to toss so I've been putting them in there. Right now I have hygro siamensis and stricta, rotala indica, cabomba, mayaca fluvialtilis and water sprite.
I though they would die a slow death but no instead they are growing very beautifully but but slow. Even the cabomba which should need high light is doing well.

This thing is an enigma...
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-08-2005, 02:17 AM
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I really like the tank, innovative, natural, beautiful, easy to care for... goes to show that balance is the key... low light + low ferts = success. One without the other = algae.

Tell us a little about the fauna...
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I like the tank as well very peaceful. Must be a change of pace versus the 3-4 watt/gal ones.
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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 03-08-2005, 02:24 AM
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Botia - there's definitely a lesson in this! Three questions...

What kid of substrate?
What did you mean by 24/7 on the light? Surely not on all the time!
How old is the tank?

Looks great!

Steve - 33g reef and a 180g planted in need of a re-scape.
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This tank has been running for two years in various plantings. This planting is from oct 2004. I have two weather loaches, two pepper loaches, 3 burmese brook loaches and sadly only one hilstream. Hillstreams have short lifespans and mine have slowly died out and they are hard to find around here.'
Scolley yes the lights have been on 24/7 for 8 months. I put a timer on it today however.
The substrate is pool filter sand mixed with TMS. I only do a 40% water change
when the level drops so low that AC 200's start to sputter. (4inch drop)
btw there is 869 gph of filtration on this tank , adds up to 29 turnovers an hour (that's two ac200's, 1acmini, and one sponge filter powered by a 369gph ac4000. The water is crystal clear
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yes the lights have been on 24/7 for 8 months. I put a timer on it today however.
Wow - I don't have a lot of experience at this stuff, but I've read a LOT to make up for that, and 24/7 goes against everything I've read. Was that an experiment for you? Or do you know something that most of the aquatic book authors don't? Clearly it didn't kill the plants!


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The substrate is pool filter sand mixed with TMS.
What's TMS? A Tropica product?


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This tank has been running for two years in various plantings.
I don't know what TMS is, but if the tank had been running for two years, I wonder if that had something to do with viability of the tank. Nutrient exchange and all that. I wonder if you could have done it with TMS in a new tank.


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869 gph of filtration on this tank , adds up to 29 turnovers an hour.
Wow! That's got to be fairly unique.


So when we look for explanations for why the tank has done so well, two anomalies pop up. Non-stop lights, and massive current/filtration. Since you are putting the lights on a "normal" regimen, maybe we'll learn something from that.

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Scolley TMS is Tahitian moon sand. So no magic bullet just a totally inert substrate that is well seasoned. As for 24/7 originally there were a lot of hillstreams in there so I left it on so the algae could build up on verything fo rthe loaches to eat.
The river tank system was invented by martin thoene from loaches.com so it's not that unique as there are lot's of folks over there that have them.
I figure with so much agitation my co2 is constantly getting refilled to a 3-5 ppm level and the low light provides very slow groth to match. The high current mean there is constant light wash of nutirents over the plants.
So it I think it's just a case of accidental balance between light , nutrients and co2.
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