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post #1411 of 2268 (permalink) Old 09-23-2012, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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Tom, what do you do with all your trimmings?
Sell them on my site.

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Sell them on my site.
I was wondering because I don't always see a new sales thread when you say you've trimmed. Unless you hoard them until you can sell a ton?


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With very high light, it's a rather obvious thing to assume you need more CO2.

But many seem to go the other way, but not with light, which is counter logically and not based on how plants grow. Time is a factor for sure, but so is experience. I've consistently been able to grow virtually any plant.
Not just so so, but am able to garden and scape with them.

If I run into issues, I know based ona lot of pats experiences, what CO2 issues look like and since I have other tanks without issues and dose the same and use the same lighting...........this leaves pretty much only CO2 as the main large significant variable. Add a couple of decades and 400 plant species to this, and you get a pretty good feel.

Folks often think their CO2 is perfect and it's really an unknown.
Unless you have some method to confirm it and the only way there is with a known standard reference, which few if anyone has ever posted and suggested in this hobby.

I know based on independent non limiting light and nutrients.
Those 2 can certainly influence CO2 and cause dependencies.

So folks often see this and think that the CO2 cannot be the issue, or they have a set up where they cannot add more CO2 without gassing fish, or they are too fast/impatient with adjusting CO2.

Sometimes, it's the lack of general care.
Sometimes it is the lack of water changes and trimming, sometimes the type of filter, surface scum etc.

Hard to say without the details.
On line this is tough, in person this is easy for me.
I'm seeing slight changes but I expected to see rapid changes right away. I'm pumping even more co2 daily, hope the diffuser can handle it without throwing bigger bubbles that donn't get diffusion. But here are the changes I see:

I just wish I can find a good balance without overdoing it too much. Still haven't dosed yet. I think I was overdoing it on the dosing as well.

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senegalensis, came with hair algae and I haven't been able to eradicate it


rotala sunset: still twisting leaves, not curling, my mistake.
Tom in your experience, how long given co2 levels are correct does it take to notice a change? I am not seeing changes with this plant



goias starting to turn slightly slightly pink, I don't know if the camera picked it up, as I look at all the leaves, a lot of them are changing from their pure green to very very very slow pink

Most of us are just blasting light anyways, so we'll never get it right ;/ :/ >l/


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Sell them on my site.
speaking of which, do you think youll have any e. hydropiper anytime soon? id only be looking for 1-2 square inches.
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speaking of which, do you think youll have any e. hydropiper anytime soon? id only be looking for 1-2 square inches.
No, will be some time yet.

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post #1416 of 2268 (permalink) Old 09-25-2012, 04:16 PM
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That is one killer piece of driftwood. What an amazing hardscape! Tom you've inspired me to very patiently plan out my next tank for sure.

I really like how your tank has multiple viewing angles yet remains so appealing. Very tricky to do indeed.

Very nice sir!
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take in mind strung out. plants take about 1-2 weeks to really respond to changes. sure their are some more immediate signs
but new leaves wont start growing larger and healthier for about a week given normal light levels
of course if ur tank is on super light sunpower mode, the response to things gowing the right way will be faster
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take in mind strung out. plants take about 1-2 weeks to really respond to changes. sure their are some more immediate signs
but new leaves wont start growing larger and healthier for about a week given normal light levels
of course if ur tank is on super light sunpower mode, the response to things gowing the right way will be faster
Note taken sir.

Most of us are just blasting light anyways, so we'll never get it right ;/ :/ >l/


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These are pics 3 days after treatment with API algae fix.
You can see zero damage to all plant species and fish are fine.

This tank had a touch of BBA flair up due to the purposed reduction in CO2(pH went up 0.3).
This induced a nice healthy aggressive green hair algae bloom mostly, the UG was covered as where most stem plants and the R wallichii.

There is no hair algae left.

I was hoping to test the Algae fix to kill the low grade fire shrimp.
This failed, I found dozens left.

The algae test however, was a success.

Seems the algaefix will kill many/most of the shrimps, but not 100%.
In test tanks without as many plants and soil etc, this is not the case.
Soil likely binds and bacteria laden tanks can perhaps break the pesticide AI much more than the bare tanks.

I'm quite pleased at the selectivity.

As many cannot remove all their shrimp, this at least gives then some chance and perhaps you can remove them here and there during treatment, and there's no adverse impact on mosses or any vascular plants I can discern.

So far this product was effective killing the most troublesome hair algae species(Rhizo, Spirogyra, Vaucheria, Cladophora).
I have not tested it on Algae balls. Those are easy to remove during treatment.

I do not think it kills diatoms, BBA, BGA at all.
Otto's and plecos can address most all diatom issues I've ever seen.

BBA:CO2/Excel Spot treatments with Excel/H2O2, SAE's etc.
BGA:Blackouts, KNO3, EM and KNO3 post dosing.

GDA: I need to hear back from more folks on this. Result seem encouraging. I had a strong aggressive bloom and it took care of it with one treatment.
Other long time victims are trying it.










Note the UG, the growth and the difference since the Rummies have been removed is astounding.



Compare when I induced the algae:



Then the week prior to that:

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I'll have to keep that stuff in mind next time I get an outbreak . Good stuff Tom!
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I'll have to keep that stuff in mind next time I get an outbreak . Good stuff Tom!
Well, it's good for green algae, not much else other than trying to kill shrimp.

Does not kill the root issue.

Still, I can easily kill green algae now and do more test on what INDUCES green algae without a lot of work/labor to reset the tank.

BBA, diatoms, BGA are pretty easy to control and manage in this type of tank and we know general trends there.

Less so for GDA, Hair algae etc. Cladophora is very tough to get rid of, you need to remove every strand like Riccia.

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Also found some more of that red liverwort on the Buce's.

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That kinda sucks that your Rummies were eating the UG, as I'd really like a carpet in my tank. What do you fee them?


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Also found some more of that red liverwort on the Buce's.
I'm interested in seeing a picture of this.

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I'm interested in seeing a picture of this.
Cross BBA with Riccia.

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