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Very pretty, Tom. Your new choice of weeds are a pleasant improvement. Didn't care for the ADA style tank, never really been fond of that style. I'm all for dutch and similar styles. Isn't that ludwigia palustris sp 'red' awesome? Grows great even for me. That's saying something.
I think it is a very nice plant and a good horticultural addition to the hobby.

Things like weedy mosses, L pantanal........some wimpy weeds etc.....they are more trouble than they are worth often times, or folks that want really red plants, well, here's one that stays nice no matter what you do to it.

Wise plant choices are good.

This L sp "red" will drop in price and has already pretty much.
I do not care that much about the price.only that it's a nice plant to work with.

Dutch style appeals more to folks interested in the species than the over all design, effect........ in general. Controlled collectoritus so to speak. This tank si not a Dutch tank however. But it fails the Nature aquarium test also.

There's no inspired vision or essence of the design really.
The wood is a theme, but that's about all. the plants are simple contrast and the placement is simply a response to the wood dividers.

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I call it Tom's Garden of Eden. I saw someone selling 2 stems for $10 already. I was very fortunate and got a steal on the plant a while ago. It's much easier than others. How many different plants do you plan to grow in your tank?

Nature aquariums never did much for me. Just looked like grass with random rocks thrown in for most of those out there. I didn't see the appeal. But to each there own.

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It doesn't matter what style or genera you call it. It either looks good or it doesn't work. I'm not an expert nor can I explain or justify why I like one tank over another, but this one works well for my eyes and mind.

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I call it Tom's Garden of Eden. I saw someone selling 2 stems for $10 already. I was very fortunate and got a steal on the plant a while ago. It's much easier than others. How many different plants do you plan to grow in your tank?

Nature aquariums never did much for me. Just looked like grass with random rocks thrown in for most of those out there. I didn't see the appeal. But to each there own.

Do you use a regular sump or a wet dry?
I honestly love both styles and also am interested in developing and making my own. I tend to break rules and ask some rather basic questions.

I'm not a "contrarian" however.

A well done Nature aquarium with a high level of craftsmanship done is a nice sight to behold. As is a nice well done Dutch tank. Both involve much more craftsmanship than many think. Less creativity really.
I do not think this tank is particularly creative, but just different is all.

I have about 20-25 species I think, I've had tanks with 40-50 before........but for this tank, 25 would be the limit really.

I use a wet/dry on all my tanks, client's included.

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It doesn't matter what style or genera you call it. It either looks good or it doesn't work. I'm not an expert nor can I explain or justify why I like one tank over another, but this one works well for my eyes and mind.
In music, I say if it sounds good, it is good.
Same with anything really.

But to the musician or the aquarist, I often ask the creator, do you feel happy with it?

I'm a ways off, but getting there and on the right general path, far from perfect.

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It doesn't matter what style or genera you call it. It either looks good or it doesn't work. I'm not an expert nor can I explain or justify why I like one tank over another, but this one works well for my eyes and mind.
In music, I say if it sounds good, it is good.
Same with anything really.

But to the musician or the aquarist, I often ask the creator, do you feel happy with it?

I'm a ways off, but getting there and on the right general path, far from perfect.

Here's where the wood comes from, I'
ll take a few more shots, if the damn deer hunters do not shoot me, dang....they are everywhere, got frigging homes built up there.

Cabela's made a lot of $$$ this season on those suckers.




There is a 3000-4000ft canyon below on the other side of this.
Tough work eh? Actually it is..........but pretty place.

I work on aquatic weeds in Lake Tahoe, and this is on the way about 10-15 miles out of my way.

Rice paddy soil is the same almost as the ADA AS.........I live around that and see it daily........so when folks suggest that they need to be in nature.........well..........

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Update, still a ways off, I need to redo the R wallichii and add the L pantanal perhaps in that spot where I can trim it often..........have some more slight wood combos to work on. A couple more trims and I should be in a good zone.
Fairly easy tank to manage now. Video might be upcoming in the future.

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Looking great, love all the colors.

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Right side is okay, the left needs work.

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Looking very good. How do you like the S. 'porto velho'? That stuff grew like a weed when I had it in my tank and needed to be trimmed very often otherwise it grew into a tangled mess. I love the look of it until it got out of hand so I was wanting your take on this plant.

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Looking very good. How do you like the S. 'porto velho'? That stuff grew like a weed when I had it in my tank and needed to be trimmed very often otherwise it grew into a tangled mess. I love the look of it until it got out of hand so I was wanting your take on this plant.
It's the slowest grower out of all the species I have in here.
Weird.......

Might not like the new ADA AS's NH4........but even still, but now it should be doing well.

Here's what I did with it in the past:





It did fine in ADA AS before, same tap, same fert, same except the light is different......

I never liked the way it looked in the 60 cube either:



It looked good in the other dutch style tank above.

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Looking very good. How do you like the S. 'porto velho'? That stuff grew like a weed when I had it in my tank and needed to be trimmed very often otherwise it grew into a tangled mess. I love the look of it until it got out of hand so I was wanting your take on this plant.
There's a nice brighter green limnophila species I like and might replace it with.

It's nice once it fills in, but it's not growing at the same rates as the other plants.

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How's the L. Pereunsis doing? It's the slowest stem I have ever grown.
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What's this curly weed?

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How's the L. Pereunsis doing? It's the slowest stem I have ever grown.
Does about 1-2" a week, making it a nicer stem plant in this tank, I trim it once a month. P stellata, L pantanal, the L sp "red", H garderi, M matogrossense, these are the real weeds. But they just get topped, so the work is not as bad, R wallichii, the L pereuneis get topped and the bottom is removed and only fresh tips are replanted.

Some plants do well with topping only..........others do well with replanting tops only.

You can allow the stumps to resprout on all of these, but the response time and look is poorer vs the other method. A little trial and error will tell you which is best.

I do take the path that gives a decent look and is the easiest, so a combo is the best for a tank like this.

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