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post #2191 of 2268 (permalink) Old 07-25-2014, 02:56 PM
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The tank looks great. I like how you've used smaller leafed plants in the forefront like HC, UG and riccardia. It adds more green and softens the overall look. And I don't mind the new fixture, it kinda works.

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post #2192 of 2268 (permalink) Old 07-25-2014, 04:51 PM Thread Starter
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New fixture has a few VERY good attributes:

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26" wide, so I get a nicer even spread over the entire area. Less intensity, but better spread and angles of light hitting the leaves and penetrating deeper into the canopy. I'm not really looking for MORE PAR, just even PAR.

2.
Cost, 190$ out the door. ATI: about 800$.

3.
Weight, while larger, it weights LESS.

4.
I can modify and put notched into the light frame to hold the wire suspension I have from the old ATI. This will look much nicer than the old ugly black cords.

5. I can gut the ballast out of the old ATI fixture and replace with standard E ballast. Then use just like a non dimmer ATI fixture. Someone will buy that for a decent price I figure.

6. Since the PAR is LESS and the Spread is wider...............I can lower the fixture down right above the top of the tank. The old ATI, I could do that also, but I'd only light the back 2/3'rds or the front 2/3's of the tank, not the entire tank.


the Bad?

1. Uglier and less discrete

2. Non dimming unless I used dimmable ballast and used an apex controller etc.



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How old was that ATI fixture?
Maybe not quite 2 years?

Replaced 2 ballast in it during that time.
My other ATI's have all worked without issues.

Just this one was very problematic.

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That sucks about your light but at least you have the ability to find one that works locally. No pot farmers in Nebraska so I would have to order online or drive to Colorado where there is plenty of growers. I have heard of a few people having problems with their ATI fixtures which is sad because at their cost they should be more reliable.

I wish TEK fixtures would come out with a dimmable fixture because they are well built lights. I wonder if the dimming causes the ballast to fail after time. Maybe the reason there isn't more dimmable t5's on the market.

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Tek is worse than this new light I have. Cost more, but it's thinner than this one. So aesthetics is the best thing for the Tek, the light output was 50% LESS than the ATI and the fixtures have the same bulb spacing and hood thickness.

I'm not impressed and had a few Tek's, they never broke however

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Dang, Tom is completely different in real life than what I imagined him to be :P...
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My other ATI's have all worked without issues.

Just this one was very problematic.
Good to hear. I bought a new 4x24w dimmable ATI about a month ago and haven't even had the chance to put bulbs in it yet... your post was making me reconsider my investment... hopefully i won't have similar issues with mine!


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wow! the new light shows of the colors more I think. I have to ask, how much par at the substrate with the new light? I have a 180g that currently has about 60 par and I am able to add 2 shop lights to it that would add about another 20 par each and I wanted to know if that would be a good idea or not to go that high of light. what do you think?

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wow! the new light shows of the colors more I think. I have to ask, how much par at the substrate with the new light? I have a 180g that currently has about 60 par and I am able to add 2 shop lights to it that would add about another 20 par each and I wanted to know if that would be a good idea or not to go that high of light. what do you think?

Are you pumping the co2 in? Cause without co2 I would go any higher.

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I currently don't have a co2 system but I am getting one. I don't have the lights on yet any ways since there are no plants.

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I'm in much better shape. But he's richer.

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I currently don't have a co2 system but I am getting one. I don't have the lights on yet any ways since there are no plants.
Go tip top with CO2, and ghetto with light, not tip top max with the lights, then Ghetto or none with the gas.

Most learn this the hard way.

My tank could not exist without darn good CO2.
High light is optional.

It only makes things harder with bad CO2 and algae management.

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thanks for the advice tom! what ppm of co2 do you keep this tank at?

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thanks for the advice tom! what ppm of co2 do you keep this tank at?
55ppm or thereabouts.

A bit less than my 180.

But the O2 is higher 7.5 at night, 11 during the end of the light cycle.
Pretty high.

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55ppm or thereabouts.



A bit less than my 180.



But the O2 is higher 7.5 at night, 11 during the end of the light cycle.

Pretty high.

How are you able to measure your O2 ppm?

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How are you able to measure your O2 ppm?
Hach HQ40 and a HACH LDO O2 probe calibrated.

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