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post #1741 of 2268 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Riccia is a weed, but I tend this tank and seem motivated to do so.
If not, "ferr get about it".

It's a nice bright pearling whitish color like the Anubias but fine textured.

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Tom do you have the presentation you gave at the aga conference online anywhere?
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Tom do you have the presentation you gave at the aga conference online anywhere?
The AGA is the owner of that property.
They have DVD's available on line for sale.

http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/merch.html

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hmm, i do like it's appearance, you may end up making me want to try it since i spend about 2 days a week working on it. i may have the time to tend to some riccia
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hmm, i do like it's appearance, you may end up making me want to try it since i spend about 2 days a week working on it. i may have the time to tend to some riccia
If you have the dwarf mini riccia/can get it, I can send some rather nice long stems of pantanal in trade bait.

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Tom, what do you think is the best way to grow riccia emersed?

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im in the aquatic plant cloaca of the world.
but i am planning a trip to volunteer at the aquarium. i'll check locals and see if its a possible nab. i'll let you know by this commign wednesday. if u can' wait that long its not a big deal
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Tom, what do you think is the best way to grow riccia emersed?
Throw in in a ditch that's normal fill with water in your area during the summer.
Wait.

I've seen it growing a few plants on grown in Florida when I lived there, it grows much faster if you add CO2 and ferts in the water.

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im in the aquatic plant cloaca of the world.
but i am planning a trip to volunteer at the aquarium. i'll check locals and see if its a possible nab. i'll let you know by this commign wednesday. if u can' wait that long its not a big deal
Weeds do not stop growing.

And I am patient, but persistent.

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Still have not decided what plant will go in the front section in the middle, but likely will try some E hydropiper again and perhaps HC./Mic umbrosum "Monte Carlo".
R. macrandra is in a serious need of a trim.

UG is starting to actively grow/fill back in. Seems to not do much for 4-8 weeks, then takes off.
Pantanal is shaping up better after a slight CO2 issue.

I've learned this tank is very touchy about CO2, mostly related to the very high light values.
I may slow things down and drop to 75% max output like the 180 Gallon.
The other idea is to add a dual pipe bean animal like CPR prefilter and this will help a fair amount on this tank.
I'll do this in a month or so.










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Nice looking gold nugget plecos!
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the plecos are nice

have u considered a bigger drain line instead of having a bean animal?
it functions on the same principle for noise. bigger drain line, less flow.
co2 savings doubled going from a 1 inch to a 1.5. noise was reduced. and you still get alll that turbulent water down the drain to help with gas exchange. for your size tank you may want to go with a 2 inch drain. but then again i don't know ur GPH. at 700 GPH this thing is smooth, but its upper limit is 750 which i have pushed, and it starts making noise, backing up, etc...
done with a CS150 box, and standpipe. vent tube and strainer does not work at that point. i went with a durso style standpipe but i oversized the holes. i did not need it for noise modification, more just height control.. its in my journal if u need to take a look

also, at what height is ur light fixture over the water surface? and how long do u run 100% i know its dimmed up and down, which im still waiting on a time lapse video
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the plecos are nice

have u considered a bigger drain line instead of having a bean animal?
it functions on the same principle for noise. bigger drain line, less flow.
co2 savings doubled going from a 1 inch to a 1.5. noise was reduced. and you still get alll that turbulent water down the drain to help with gas exchange. for your size tank you may want to go with a 2 inch drain. but then again i don't know ur GPH. at 700 GPH this thing is smooth, but its upper limit is 750 which i have pushed, and it starts making noise, backing up, etc...
done with a CS150 box, and standpipe. vent tube and strainer does not work at that point. i went with a durso style standpipe but i oversized the holes. i did not need it for noise modification, more just height control.. its in my journal if u need to take a look

also, at what height is ur light fixture over the water surface? and how long do u run 100% i know its dimmed up and down, which im still waiting on a time lapse video
Thanks for the info, always good to see/hear what changes effect CO2/noise.
I like the idea behind the bean animal and the adaptability.

So I can drill a small 1/2 bulkhead on the side for the emergency overflow, and then use the other 2 for the flow control. This way I can dial,it in, but you can do the same with the larger pipe, I just like to have an "oh crap emergency" for any flow constriction.

Bean animal overflow modifications are almost dead silent, and the CO2 lose is minimized.

Light height is about 18-20"
Time total is 8 hours, with a 1.5 hour ramp up from 0-100%, then a 1.5 ramp down at the end of the cycle. CO2 comes up with the lights, and shuts off about 30 minutes before the lights do at night.

I could have the lights come on 1.5 hours to 75%, and then for the next 5 hours, hit 100%, then 100-0% in the next 1.5 hours. This would match the typical CO2 climb ppm over the light intensity cycle.

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This is a fantastically beautiful tank. Very impressive coloration on the ludwigia. I haven't read through the entire post, but how do you dose the tank - and has your dosing regime changed over time?
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Thanks for the info, always good to see/hear what changes effect CO2/noise.
I like the idea behind the bean animal and the adaptability.

So I can drill a small 1/2 bulkhead on the side for the emergency overflow, and then use the other 2 for the flow control. This way I can dial,it in, but you can do the same with the larger pipe, I just like to have an "oh crap emergency" for any flow constriction.

Bean animal overflow modifications are almost dead silent, and the CO2 lose is minimized.

Light height is about 18-20"
Time total is 8 hours, with a 1.5 hour ramp up from 0-100%, then a 1.5 ramp down at the end of the cycle. CO2 comes up with the lights, and shuts off about 30 minutes before the lights do at night.

I could have the lights come on 1.5 hours to 75%, and then for the next 5 hours, hit 100%, then 100-0% in the next 1.5 hours. This would match the typical CO2 climb ppm over the light intensity cycle.
thanks for the light info! i'm still trying to dial mine in. im either too bright or too dim. i'm not such a big fan of the tek 6 bulb for this reason. 2 switches. 1 controls 2 bulbs, 1 controls the other 4 in the middle... it leaves a lot to be desired. but at least the output is decent.
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