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post #391 of 609 (permalink) Old 06-15-2013, 07:55 PM
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Every time I stumble across this thread there are so many wonderful updates to see. The best things in life take time, you are doing a great job of planning it out and executing your ideas to see it come to life. Surely I speak for all of us when i say we can vicariously enjoy your build through this amazing journal. Can't wait to see you scape the tank and fill it!

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Wow. just read through 27 pages hoping to see the tank complete with fish and plants, but its not done yet. what a cliffhanger. My hat is off to you. your planning and patience is top notch. I could barely wait that long. Also, how did you learn to do all those wiring for the lighting and the plumbing work? Self taught or did someone teach you?

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post #394 of 609 (permalink) Old 06-28-2013, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Final sump design. Sent it off to the custom sump maker to get a quote and see if I want to just pay someone to make it or DIY it. I've made sumps before, but working with acrylic is a pain, especially on 5'+ long sump.

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I like the overflow-into-the-sock idea. Do you think you really need 6 socks? It can't hurt, but is it necessary?
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post #396 of 609 (permalink) Old 06-29-2013, 12:37 AM
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Have you thought about a custom lifereef sump? Those are w/o socks and really highly recommended.
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I like the overflow-into-the-sock idea. Do you think you really need 6 socks? It can't hurt, but is it necessary?
From what I have seen, peace of mind has no price to him lol

I seriously can't wait to See this setup in operation
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I sincerely hope that you are hiring a qualified service to upkeep this system once it finally gets wet. From weekly sock changes/blasting, monthly sock bleaching, to weekly water changing, to multiple filter media replacement/ algae cleaning, weekly parameter testing and plant trimming, unless you are retired, you have established a full time position for yourself tank side.

If these systems are not up-kept, each and every one of them will become a nightmare (clogged filter parts bogging flow, unkept socks leaching waste back into system/overflowing, etc).

FWIW, please order yourself at least 24 socks, because having managed a muti-sock system for about 3 years, any less than 4 replacements per hole will be tedious at best.

If all of these parts are properly maintained though, you will have yourself a seriously magnificent setup. Reminds me of what they have setup for the large Amazon biotope at the Georgia aquarium.
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I sincerely hope that you are hiring a qualified service to upkeep this system once it finally gets wet. From weekly sock changes/blasting, monthly sock bleaching, to weekly water changing, to multiple filter media replacement/ algae cleaning, weekly parameter testing and plant trimming, unless you are retired, you have established a full time position for yourself tank side.

If these systems are not up-kept, each and every one of them will become a nightmare (clogged filter parts bogging flow, unkept socks leaching waste back into system/overflowing, etc).

FWIW, please order yourself at least 24 socks, because having managed a muti-sock system for about 3 years, any less than 4 replacements per hole will be tedious at best.

If all of these parts are properly maintained though, you will have yourself a seriously magnificent setup. Reminds me of what they have setup for the large Amazon biotope at the Georgia aquarium.

Maintenance should not be that bad. Takes about 2 mins to swap out filter socks and the canisters will be placed so they can be easily maintained as well. The filter socks should catch most of the waste and debris, so the other filters should only need cleaned twice a month and the large 25 micron filters probably every 6-8 weeks at most.

Everything will be monitored with pressure switches, flow switches and float switches to tell when something is starting to get clogged and Apex will send me a text/email telling me to clean the filter.

Water changes and fert dosing will all be hands off and automatic.

Tank cleaning will be done with a separate small pump to act as gravel vac and waste water will be dumped down a drain.

I dont expect to spend more than 1-2 hours a week on cleaning and maintenance.
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Final upgraded sump design with flush sitting filter socks, water change over flow box and top with recessed cut outs for lids to seal the whole thing










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So the water change overflow, as you add water to the sump it fills and drains water, assuming I am looking at it correctly... That's quite ingenious!

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So the water change overflow, as you add water to the sump it fills and drains water, assuming I am looking at it correctly... That's quite ingenious!

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Correct. I will also route a 1" pipe in the sump so that all the new water being added is getting immediately sucked up by the return pump and sent to the tank. So all that can overflow is old water coming back from the tank. This should give me true 100% exchange.

The overflow box sets the water level in the sump. It is set 1" below the overflow of the previous chamber. This is also where evaporation water levels will fall on the whole system, so there will be float switch to turn on the water change pump if water levels ever fall too low from evap or pump start up.
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Thats an interesting design for the water change system. A lot different than using a couple well placed ball valves and a tee.
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i have used a similar design with tap water through a Carbon whole house canister to perform 100 gallons a day water change on a timer, with the drain being a 2" open bulkhead at top of the system.

This should work well, if your rodi unit can keep up with the demand of whatever timer you set (100GPD unit would really max out at 60 gallons or so safely on a daily basis, if the reservoir is that large).
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hi rbarn,

fantastic project!

re the sump, will the middle compartment be a refugium or will you have bio media in there?
earlier you mentioned cannisters with media (and I'm guessing greater flow rates) so I assumed refugium here. If so, what flow rates are you thinking about?

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