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post #16 of 186 (permalink) Old 08-23-2011, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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I'm usually up until about 3am most nights, lol. No worries.

Update: Tank is setup....probably gonna do dry start method for this HC and see how it does for a while. got a HUGE bunch of java moss (thanks Vesh!) today for the shrimp to live in in the tupperware container while the tank is stabilizing itself. Managed to cut myself twice pretty good while derimming the tank...nothing requiring stitches though. The only issue I found with that tank was that there was a small piece of glass broken out at the top...oh well. I'll fill it with silicone or something. The tupperware container is 13"x7.25"x4.25" filled about 3/4 with water. Shrimp are doing fine in it and my room temperature doesn't fluctuate that much. Yes, I'm moving it off the ground....I have cats y'know.

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post #17 of 186 (permalink) Old 08-23-2011, 06:50 PM
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That'll look really nice when it fills in. If you break up your HC it'll fill in twice as quick.

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I wouldnt dry start the HC I gave you. Its already in its submerged form and will probably do very poorly in a dry start. People only do dry starts with HC because 99% of the time the HC you buy is in its emersed form for farming reasons. There is even a possibility you could completely kill it off.

Yeah I was going to say too, break up the HC some more then that. You should break each one of those into 5 smaller pieces. Each strand in an individual plant. It will grow 'faster' and look better. I say 'faster' because growth rate is the same, just it seems to grow faster because it will cover faster.

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I figured if it can transition from dry to wet fairly easily with the right amount of CO2, why can't it go from wet to dry with all the CO2 in the air? Hmm...I really have no idea how I'd go about planting the HC, though. I just kinda laid it on the aquasoil and pushed it down a little bit. I figured the roots would just grow into the soil.
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Plant it DEEP with thin tweezers. I like to plant mine with 3/4 of the stem in the sub 1/4 out.

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Plant it DEEP with thin tweezers. I like to plant mine with 3/4 of the stem in the sub 1/4 out.
So when doing a dry start you can't just put the roots on the soil? Sigh. This is gonna take longer than I thought, lol. Might as well just fill the tank up today if I'm going to plant it that way.
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if it has roots already then as long as the roots are covered you should be fine...I was talking about planting stems that needs to reestablish a root system...you should still break it up though..

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Alright. I already broke it up into double what I had before.....do I need to break it up more? Also, since it's submerged form HC should I really just plant it and fill it, or will it be fine immersed?
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did you de-rim your 20long tank???
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I did.
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did you check to make sure the tank still holds water without the black trims?


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Yessir. No leaks and barely any bowing at all. I did leave most of the silicone, though...so that's probably helping.
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Just go submerged, you'll need to cycle anyways...it came submerged stay with submerged...

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Will do.....definitely not looking forward to that much individual planting though....the root system on this stuff is so bunched up it's ridiculous. THANKS GDP
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it'll be worth it...each one of those bunches in the pics can be broken up into 5 to 10 bunches..

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