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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-27-2017, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
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Hanging Rock - 45p Iwagumi

Starting to plan another scape for my little apartment, this will be the 5th aquarium in a 70sqm apartment.

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Co2 - via UP Aqua In-Line Atomizer 12/16mm
Light - 45cm Chihiros A-Series Plus
Substrate - Cal Aqua Green Base and Cal Aqua Black Earth
Ferts - Cal Aqua Green, Red and Chrome

Plants - Carpet only I am thinking... Glosso, MC, HC, hairgrass mix? Various moss attached to the rocks. Probably Mini Pellia and Fissidens Fontanus, tho I have some flame, spiky and weeping moss, but dont think they will suit.

Picked up a big 9kg seiyru stone, which will be the main feature. I have started to play around with the layout and I think I am fairly decided on the last picture below, probably will have a lot of height and some of the stone emersed.









Decided on something like this... hard to balance the big rock without any substrate so the angle may be improved a bit.



I will have sand on the left under the hanging rock and bank Cal Aqua Black Earth up on the right, the rocks will be lifted and tilted a bit to create more overhand, below is a ruff idea of planting

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woohaah 5th aquarium thats some dedication

Liking the little stones on the last pic. Gives a nice natural effect.
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Subbed! Nice layout

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I dig these kind of tanks. Looking forward to seeing it.
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That is a beautiful piece of rock.
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Thanks guys, hopefully get onto setting up the dry start this weekend!
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First and last pic are my favorite, maybe look at combining them? Subbed!
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Got the big rock into the small tank, I like the look, the contrast in angle of the soil to the rock, I also like the idea of just using the one rock, no decorative rocks. But now I am undecided on if I should use sand on the left side, considering the soil is a land slide waiting to happen I think keeping the white sand clean will be a pain in the ass! So now I am thinking carpet all over. Here is the hardscape as it sits now. There is room at the back to plant stems if I dont want to keep this carpet plants only, not to sure about that tho.


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I think stems at the back is not a bad idea. Since the rock is so big, you can't treat it like a normal iwagumi as such, cus you won't really see any carpet at the back. I wouldn't go sand cus yeah like you said cleaning won't be fun LOL.


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I would keep the slope of aquasoil on the right and then completely flat on the left maybe only 2 inches deep..
Something like Pearlweed(babytears) on the right and Dwarf Hairgrass on the left (or Erio's?) could look really nice with a Rotala Rotundifolia bush in the back left and a Blyxa Japonica poking out behind the rock on the right...
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Thanks guys, yes I think I will flatten out on the left with more soil, need to push in some substrate supports (plastic sheets) to stop the soil from flatting out to much.

Plants I am considering are Glosso front right banked up the slop, HC front left, probably plant some MC directly under the rock as HC there wouldn't get to much light and may not grow well, I have enough emmersed MC here to carpet the whole thing instantly which is tempting but I want to try plants I havent grown before.

Background I am thinking HM and MU back right, tho perhaps a blyxa could look good but may get to big, I would also like to try Limnophila sp Mini "Vietnam" up the back.

EDIT- added the extra soil

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Thanks guys, yes I think I will flatten out on the left with more soil, need to push in some substrate supports (plastic sheets) to stop the soil from flatting out to much.

Plants I am considering are Glosso front right banked up the slop, HC front left, probably plant some MC directly under the rock as HC there wouldn't get to much light and may not grow well, I have enough emmersed MC here to carpet the whole thing instantly which is tempting but I want to try plants I havent grown before.

Background I am thinking HM and MU back right, tho perhaps a blyxa could look good but may get to big, I would also like to try Limnophila sp Mini "Vietnam" up the back.

EDIT- added the extra soil

IMG_9622 by Colm Doyle, on Flickr
What kind of dosing regime will you use? I find with tanks with only carpeting plants and light stems you have to keep the dosing a bit leaner.

Blyxa is technically a stem plant so not hard to control the size.
HC is notoriously difficult for me especially in smaller tanks.
Given the size of this stone you could easily use HM as the foreground carpet and have an easier time.
HM and blyxa are a lovely contrast and limnophilia or rotala would be excellent background plants as well.
Personally glosso is too messy and leggy for a small iwagumi

Mixing MC and HC will make for irritating differences in growth and density IMO
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Blyxa as a backdrop for large stones is always nice, perhaps use Marsilea in one of the back corner to droop over the main stone and creep into the foreground
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What kind of dosing regime will you use? I find with tanks with only carpeting plants and light stems you have to keep the dosing a bit leaner.

Blyxa is technically a stem plant so not hard to control the size.
HC is notoriously difficult for me especially in smaller tanks.
Given the size of this stone you could easily use HM as the foreground carpet and have an easier time.
HM and blyxa are a lovely contrast and limnophilia or rotala would be excellent background plants as well.
Personally glosso is too messy and leggy for a small iwagumi

Mixing MC and HC will make for irritating differences in growth and density IMO
Going to use the Cal Aqua range of ferts, I have used Cal Aqua Green base and Cal Aqua Black earth soil, will keep the dosing lean and use floaters at the start to increase plant mass. Mixing of the carpet is the kind of look I would like, more natural, I have done a few carpets of just MC and it got a bit boring.

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Blyxa as a backdrop for large stones is always nice, perhaps use Marsilea in one of the back corner to droop over the main stone and creep into the foreground
Yes I would like to try a few patches of Marsilea around the base of the rock, will have to try source some, there is a species native to Australia but apparently its a slow grower doesnt really carpet, could suit my needed
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You won't have a problem with hc. You can find my tank journal and see that I have a full carpet in my 45p. Keep your feet up and c02. You'll be good


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