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post #1 of 129 (permalink) Old 09-19-2016, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
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10g High Tech DSM - Raised Substrate Eggcrate Experiment

I've just moved into a new house and some of my housemates have fallen in love with my planted tanks, so I decided to do one in the living room with an extra 10er and stand I had been given. I put it in the corner, so I plastidiped the back and left side to hide the wiring, tubing, and filtration. Got a Finnex 24/7 Planted+ for it. Also got some eggcrate and messed around with it until I came up with this arrangement:


Amazonia will be on either side of a white sand river that starts 3 inches from the back left (high) side of the tank and sweeps forward into a beach in the front 2/3 of the tank about 3" back from the front. This will all be on top of ADA Powersand Special S to create more water flow and prevent anaerobic build up. I have 7lbs of Okho Stone for the hardscape, considering driftwood, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Planning on EI dosing, as long as the shrimp can take it, and a DIY CO2 paintball set up.

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Flora:
Forground (behind sand + right side to back:
•Micranthemum "Monte Carlo"
•Pogostemon helferi "red"
Midground (middle + left):
•Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides
•Staurogyne sp. purple
•Cuphea anagalloidea
Background (coming out from between middle rocks):
•Hygrophila salicifolia (too big?)
•Hygrophila salicifolia var. "Red Green" (too big?)
•Staurogyne bihar
•Limnophila sp. aromatica mini or sp. belem




Fauna:
•Shadow Panda TBs
•PFR neos
•Nano fish?

I need help picking nano fish species. I'm familiar with a lot of species, just not much experience mixing them with shrimp as it is a general rule not to. However, I've seen the occassional strawberry rasbora/TB (just an example) tank that just looks amazing, so let me know your experience!

Another issue I have is how deep the substrate is in the back left, it could be almost 6 inches deep when all is said and done and I dont want it to get anoxic. Will I be okay with the eggcrate and powersand to prevent this or should i cut the eggcrate there and shove a couple larger lava rocks down to take up the space below the substrate?

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post #2 of 129 (permalink) Old 09-20-2016, 10:46 AM
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Substrate height shouldn't be too much of an issue. Boraras species could be a good way to go. Look at Rachel O'Leary's channel/website look for species you like and then see if they are suitable for your setup and shrimp.


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Just to let you know my shrimps started disappearing on separate occasions I added strawberry rasbora and cpds. I have good luck with U borara, Brigittae, Kubotai and Sundadanios.
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So I've been playing with the idea of how to keep the sand and soil sections separate. I finally decided the only way to go is to use the rocks as a river lining. Luckily, when I started placing the rocks, I noticed the eggrate creates a wonderful shelving effect which is amplified by the flat faces of the stones. Now the river section will be deeper down than the rest, but hopefully will stay pretty separate once I fill all the little gaps (got lots of rubble just in case).


The rocks also eliminate any worry of the river having an artificial curvature. The back part looks very promising and curvy.
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looks fun. the plastic boxes def lets you play around. have fun with the imagination. let it thrive. i hope to see what you're talking about in the coming posts. river under water? whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
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Cool, hope to see the finished product on here
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looks fun. the plastic boxes def lets you play around. have fun with the imagination. let it thrive. i hope to see what you're talking about in the coming posts. river under water? whhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat


Just a sand "river." Nothing too fancy!
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Changing it up once again, making A larger mound on the left side to give the effect of a mountain with a deep chasm in it. I am going to get more Ohko stone tomorrow to fill the space, although I have nearly enough. Then it's time to get started!
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Make sure you have enough space between the rock and the glass to clean and for it too look natural.
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Make sure you have enough space between the rock and the glass to clean and for it too look natural.

Definitely a good point, but the rocks near the glass are against the black background and will be completely covered in mosses/bryophytes once the DSM is done and it grow in a bit (hopefully). There is one rock close to the glass on the right I think I want to move tho...
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10g High Tech DSM - Raised Substrate Eggcrate Experiment

Planting the MC today. Starting with this pad.


Also added some Fissidens fontanus using the yogurt method.


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Had a few nodes of Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides floating around so I threw them in. Also painted some mini pellia onto the rocks along with the fissidens.


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10g High Tech DSM - Raised Substrate Eggcrate Experiment

Day 6, posted a couple days late!:

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What is the "Yogert method"
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