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post #196 of 388 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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If any of you followed the remodel of the fish room/den, then you know the point was to spend more time viewing and enjoying the tank. @Immortal1 called it my new “fish tv”.

Well, he’s kind of right. I thought I would share a video of how it looks from the new super comfy seats.

I actually removed quite a bit of plant matter with the move, and am kind of in the growing back out phase, but you get the idea.

So here’s two minutes lounging in the den. Hope you enjoy it.

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post #197 of 388 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 10:55 PM
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Who needs a tank when I can just watch your video? It is so much less maintenance this way.
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Who needs a tank when I can just watch your video? It is so much less maintenance this way.
LOL, that's a good one.

And by the way, your tank is well on it's way, and will take less maintenance over time. Keep up with it and as it fills in it's going to be really, really nice.
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LOL, that's a good one.

And by the way, your tank is well on it's way, and will take less maintenance over time. Keep up with it and as it fills in it's going to be really, really nice.
Thanks Greggz, I appreciate it. Just trying to stay patient (it's not easy).
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post #200 of 388 (permalink) Old 01-11-2017, 02:40 AM
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@Greggz love the fish tv reference. It's actually a phrase my wife uses. Recently she sent me this pic of our bearded dragon watching "fish tv". I definitely had to laugh.
As for your video, I am trying to figure out how to make it "loop", then play it on my TV which is next to my tank - now that would be a perfect evening :-)
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Just thought I would share a few random shots from the tank tonight.

Iíll start with some Rainbows (what a surprise!)

Here are a couple of young Boesemani Rainbow (Lake Aytingo)
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And hereís an older one.
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The elusive Pygmaea Rainbow. Small and fast, very hard to photograph.
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A young Glossolepis dorityi. Red stripes are starting to come in nice now.
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This is an Orange Albino Millennium Rainbow. Getting more red all the time.
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The Melanotaenia Praecox Pagai. Hard to catch the shimmer they create.
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Now, I know I mostly concentrate on pics of Rainbows. But here are some other tank mates, equally as colorful.

Electric Blue Ram
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Gold Nose Electric Blue Ram
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And of course, what Rainbow tank is complete without Roseline Sharks. Funny with all the Rainbows I keep, when people see the tank for the first time, they always comment on the Roselines.
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Great looking fish!


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post #203 of 388 (permalink) Old 01-22-2017, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you. I was just looking at your thread with the photos. Really nice pictures there.

I'm sure others like me would like to see more of your tank, you should start a journal sometime.
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Great pics, as always, Gregg!

Question: I thought that blue rams needed acidic water...?

Tanks a bunch!

My current 120 tank journal: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/12...k-journal.html

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Great pics, as always, Gregg!

Question: I thought that blue rams needed acidic water...?
Well, as usual, my advice would be not to worry about it too much. At least it has not been my experience.

I've kept Rams with Rainbows for years. I have found them to be pretty resilient, regardless of pH, temp, or other parameters. Actually very tough little buggers. I have a couple right now that are about 3 years old, which is pretty good for a Ram.

Keep in mind most of these fish are bred by people in whatever water comes out of their tap wherever they live. The Rams I get are bred locally. I think fish are more adaptable than most people think. In my experience, concentrate on the basics (you know, large water changes, good surface agitation, heavy filtration, etc.) and most fish will be just fine.
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really pretty fish! in my upcoming 75G I have decided that rather than going with larger rainbows, to go with smaller versions such as threadfins (possibly) or Forktail Blue Eyed rainbowfish.. smaller and very detailed!
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@Greggz Where did you get your Praecox Pagai, my praecox were of crappy stock and all but 3 are dead. I am looking for a replacement.
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really pretty fish! in my upcoming 75G I have decided that rather than going with larger rainbows, to go with smaller versions such as threadfins (possibly) or Forktail Blue Eyed rainbowfish.. smaller and very detailed!
I've never kept the smaller blue eyed species. Some of them are really striking, and I think a larger tank full of them would be beautiful. You just don't see large groups of them that often. Looking forward to seeing how it works out for you.

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@Greggz Where did you get your Praecox Pagai, my praecox were of crappy stock and all but 3 are dead. I am looking for a replacement.
Yes, the LFS Praecox is a weak strain of fish. Always has been for many, many years.

I bought the Pagai variety through a breeder on aquabid. They don't come up too often.

I see you are in Naperville. I used to live there for about 15 years. Nice place to be. I know a local breeder near you. I will PM you with his information and a few others I would get in contact with. If they don't have them, they might know who does.
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I was fortunate to be able to borrow a Par meter this week. My tank is somewhat tall, with lights well off the surface, and I always wondered what the actual Par values are. Well now I know so I thought I would share my results.

Frist here are the pertinent details. The tank is a 120 gallon, at 60” x 18” 26”. There are two fixtures, with total light being 4 X 54W, with 48” bulbs and good quality polished reflectors. The back and front bulbs are Zoo Med Ocean Sun 10,000K, center bulbs are Truelumen Fresh Flora red. All are about a month old.

So with a 60” tank, and 48” bulbs, I have 6” of tank on both sides with no light directly above. You would not really notice it all just looking at the tank, but I expected the Par would drop off quickly, which is why I focus on Crypts there.

Light fixtures are mounted up inside a canopy, so lights are about 10” from the water surface, and 30” from the top of substrate.

I put together charts to show the values at 10”, 19”, and 28” from the light.

A few things I found interesting. I expected a drop off in intensity as you move away from the center of the tank, which was true. What I wasn’t expecting was how much the drop off was at the ends of the tank. I expected it at the very end, as there no light directly above. But there is also a significant drop off in the last 1 foot or so of the bulb. Might have to consider going to 5' bulbs? At least it's food for thought.

I also found it interesting how quickly the light intensity fades from surface to substrate. I imagine if I re positioned my lights closer to the top of the water, it would increase the readings. May consider that as well.

So here are the readings. They were all taken at least three times. So am I high light, medium light, low light? I guess that depends on where in the tank you are measuring.
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From what I have read, I would put the central floor of your tank in the medium/high PAR level. The extreme ends of the tank would be more of a low to low/medium PAR.
What I found very interesting was the 32 par reading at each end, regardless of the depth. I would assume 32 is not the lowest reading for the meter so I do find that interesting.
Instead of buying a new 5' fixture and new bulbs, I wonder how effective it would be to add a small dome fixture at one end with a CFL bulb. Cheap enough to try out assuming you have the meter for a few more days.
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