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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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KNO3 Ban in Canada.

So, here I am about to dose fertilizers, and all I need is KNO3. Turns out there is now a ban on KNO3 in Canada(One fellow even yelled at me when I asked) and you need a special licence. Hydroponic stores no longer sell it. I was told to go to a model rocket store, but the few that I called no longer carry it either. Please don't say ebay either, seeing as I'll probably be brought in for questioning when the border seizes my illegal shipment of explosive material. Where are my fellow Canadians getting Potassium Nitrate from?
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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 07:17 PM
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that is not cool. KNO3 can be used for many things, one of which includes explosives. Durned regulatory governments. Don't get me started on that. You can try saltpeter, but that is getting harder to find than KNO3 up there, and sometimes, it is a completely different substance so beware.

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post #3 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-12-2010, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
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I was told it's an Explosives licence. Not sure I'll be able to get one for the aquarium hobby. Worst case I'll just dose potassium once in a while and hope for the best. But this really sucks for anyone who was going to use the EI method. I guess another option is to buy Super expensive nitrogen supplement in a bottle from the LFS.
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wow, interesting.
How do they make ham & bacon up in canada? It's also a meat preservative (saltpeter) and coloring. Maybe you can find it through the food route.

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I'm pretty sure saltpetre can be found at the Pharmacy/Homeopathic stores as well. Unless the ban has taken it out of everywhere. I would think small town pharmacies/general stores probably would still have some.
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Sounds like I need to run up there and start sell KNO3 outta the back of a van!

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I buy it on a regular basis in Manitoba at the hydroponics store. Not sure why BC would have different regulations than other provinces, but who knows. I know it is also available to the east of us as well (Ontario, Quebec, etc...).
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Stump remover, see local Canadian Tire.

Grant's brand if you can get it.

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Stump remover, see local Canadian Tire.

Grant's brand if you can get it.

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I've been looking for that stuff for a while myself. I have not yet found it at Can. Tire or even at local garden supply.

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Last I read there was a problem with the transport of KNO3. Can anyone find links to new restrictions?

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I went to a local grocery store pharmacist (Safeway), They said the BC warehouse doesn't carry KNO3 anymore. I guess I can try some other places. Now if I get salt peter or Stump remover, will there be anything added to the mixture that I should look out for (ie on the ingredients list). I'll call around tomorrow and post my results.

Maybe there is a different law in BC, because i'm 100% sure hydroponic/nursery stores can't sell it anymore (As I've been told by 7-8 people)
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post #12 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-13-2010, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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So I've found 2 places that have it!

First, Art napps did have it in stump removal form. (Though she said they weren't getting anymore, perhaps it was just old inventory)

Second, A specific Pharma-save has it (only one pharma-save in BC carries it) (saltpeter).

Of course the issue it that they are charging and arm and a leg. For 2lbs of stump remover it's $16, for 500g of saltpeter it's $17 and for 2kg of saltpeter it's $30

I'm assuming that pharmaceutical saltpeter is probably better then the stump remover (which had no ingredients list, Falling leaf stump remover).

Perhaps I'll get the 2kg package, and maybe see if I can sell small doses to fellow Canadians (and recoup the $30!)

If anyone is wondering.
Canadian Tire no longer carries it (Canada wide)
Safeway/superstore/london drugs/shoppers drugmart/ zellers Pharmacies don't carry saltpeter anymore.

Home depot/Rona don't carry stump remover anymore. (A lady at Rona called me stupid for trying to buy explosives before I even told her what I was using it for)

Homeopathic/organic grocers in the Surrey area don't carry it either.

Thanks for the great Tips, I would have never been able to find the stuff without your suggestions.
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Be careful with the stump remover. It might be pure KNO3, it might be something else, or it might be KNO3 with other things that could kill any life form in your aquarium. If you can't find a reliable source of its ingredients (MSDS or such) definitely test it on some shrimp first.
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get as much as you can because it may not be there later =)
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get as much as you can because it may not be there later =)
Yeah, then they will really think he's gonna blow something up!

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