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post #46 of 122 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 05:08 AM
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I dose a 10% solution of gluteraldehyde supplied by a native plant breeder in the Northern Territory (Aus).

So far so good.

But the water has gone cloudy recently. Mmm.
I would venture that you dosed a bit too much and killed off some of your good bacteria creating a mini cycle. This will happen if excel is too heavily overdosed and with metricide this can happen even easier.
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I'm surprised this thread stalled out. Seemed like a very interesting conversation.
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I'm surprised this thread stalled out. Seemed like a very interesting conversation.
I guess I'm not sure what else you want from the conversation.... There are a few other more detailed topics on this. If you look for some posts by me on glut you'll see some of it.
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I've got a question. Maybe I'm confused but did I read that some people continue dosing CO2 while using metricide? I assume that is overkill and not necessary but I wanted to be sure. I'm thinking about tossing my sugar/yeast combo and just buying metricide. Do I understand correctly that 1 gallon of this stuff could last as long as a whole year with a 55gallon tank? I'd love to hear from someone who uses Metricide with a 55g and how much of the Metricide 14 formula should be used daily and how/where to dose it. Into the filter intake? into the ground? Anywhere in the water? Sorry for all the questions.
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I paid $ 18.95 + $ 9.95 shipping on March 11th. Still way better than buying Excel. Just checked their website , darn I did not know about the $ 4.99 standard shipping. Next time I'll be more careful.

Thanks for the heads up dj2005.

After more than 2 years, price had gone up! $21 + $6 shipping on Eaby

I found one cheaper but it wouldnt provide shipping estimate.

http://www.coneinstruments.com/cart.asp
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post #52 of 122 (permalink) Old 06-22-2012, 04:38 AM
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Is metricide still worth it if I'm only using it on a 10 gallon tank?

500ml of Excel is only ~$10 with amazon prime. It's much safer and easier to dose, right?
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Is metricide still worth it if I'm only using it on a 10 gallon tank?

500ml of Excel is only ~$10 with amazon prime. It's much safer and easier to dose, right?

Your $10, 500ml Excel probably would last for a month or two. A gallon of metricide 14 is about $23-$25 shipped and would last for about a year. its more stronger than Excel so if you dilute it with I think distilled water you are looking for 2 gal Excel strength metricide 14.
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A month or two?

I was under the impression that with 500ml and only adding the recommended dosage of 1ml for 10 gallons every other day I'd be set for quite a while.
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Your $10, 500ml Excel probably would last for a month or two. A gallon of metricide 14 is about $23-$25 shipped and would last for about a year. its more stronger than Excel so if you dilute it with I think distilled water you are looking for 2 gal Excel strength metricide 14.
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In a 10 gallon tank...even with doubling the recommended amount and dosing daily, you would be dosing 2ml per day. That 500ml bottle would last well over a month or two...closer to 7 or 8 months.

For a small volume tank you aren't really going to need such a large bottle of metricide, IMO. Although it makes sense when your are dosing, for example, almost 10ml a day or so in a 75 gal tank, I'd just save the storage space and buy a bottle of excel for the convenience.
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A month or two?

I was under the impression that with 500ml and only adding the recommended dosage of 1ml for 10 gallons every other day I'd be set for quite a while.
Lol...I type too slow on my phone. You are definitely correct. I've had a 500ml bottle for well over a year as I dose weekly, at the most.
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5ml of excel in 200L(≈1ml per 10.5 gallon) adds the same amount of carbon as 0.825ppm of CO2. Does this tiny and temporary increase in carbon really make a noticable difference?

Please ignore any spelling/grammatical errors. I'm swedish and sometimes I'm also drunk.
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A month or two?

I was under the impression that with 500ml and only adding the recommended dosage of 1ml for 10 gallons every other day I'd be set for quite a while.
Yeah youre right. I apologize.

I calculate base on my heavy dosing. I always love to overdozed . Like 30ml -40ml on my 20g every other day. so 500ml will only last a month to me.

Here's a poll of Metricide 14 vs Seachem's Excel

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...hem-excel.html
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Has anyone found any good deals on Metricide 14 lately? Cheapest I can find now is $25.08 before shipping
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Has anyone found any good deals on Metricide 14 lately? Cheapest I can find now is $25.08 before shipping
Check amazon.com. You can buy it by the quart if you dont need a gallon.

http://www.amazon.com/Glutaraldehyde...d_rhf_se_p_t_2
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