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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 10-29-2015, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys/gals. I just recently started a low tech tank and am open for suggestions. I am currently in the middle if a fishless cycle. Ammonia 0's out within 12 hours, just waiting on nitrites to follow suit. Nitrites are off the chart for the time being, I think I will do some pwc's but will continue to dose ammonia at about 1PPM. I just started this tank on 10/19.

I was able to get this tank free from someone on craigslist. It's not the most perfect tank, but to me its more than enough. The person also gave me a couple hob filters, which I am using now as well. I was looking around for a stand and wasnt really impressed with whats out there. I was able to acquire some 2x4's for free and a huddy of mine helped me build a custom stand.

I'm using 40lbs of eco-complete for the substrate, using some different size rocks that I found. Finnex stingray for the lighting. Tetra whisper 10 and 20 for filtration, 100watt heater and a bubbler(for cycling). For now I have Staurgyne repens, Java fern and I think anubias? I don't use CO2 but I do dose with flourish daily. Anyway this is what I've got so far. Again I'm open to suggestions.

Bump: Waiting a couple weeks or so for the Staurogyne repens to grow so i can snip and replant them. I was so tempted to buy a couple packs of the S.repens but i ended up getting one pack from petsmart. The other two plants i got from my LFS.
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Looking good to start, should grow out nicely. I like your tank setup great choice to de-rim. Is that a finnex stingray as your light source?
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Yea it's a stingray. Couldn't justify spending an extra 40 for a Planted+. I was not planning on de-rimming it, was drinking one night and just randomly started to pull it off haha. i just de-rimmed the top, too scared to even attempt the bottom. And its very untidy on the top. I read somewhere that if you can live looking at the extra silicone, leave it. And so i did.
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post #4 of 69 (permalink) Old 10-29-2015, 06:30 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone have any experience with S.Repens? How much growth should i expect in lets say, a week? 2 weeks? a month? I want to carpet the foreground of my tank with it. I'm pretty sure it'll take some time.
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I love the sponge prefilter on the HOB. I did the same thing on my canister. Love it. I would have done some more with the DSM and gotten some more coverage. But it will fill in!
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I had the sponge filters on there last week, then i figured it wasn't enough flow. I have to find some other prefilter sponges that are more porous. Eventually i will change out the two HOB filters to a bigger capacity one.

Bump: I'm new to all of this. Its my first attempt. I had to google "DSM" haha.
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I suggest moving the light to the front of the tank. The S. repens will REALLY appreciate it. Toss some form of root tabs under the S. repens and, if it isn't too messy/ too much trouble break the S. repens clumps up.

Stock lightly and carry a big filter. - I don't have aquariums. I have ecosystems in a glass box. - Hygrophilaholic and hoarder of Anubias.
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I suggest moving the light to the front of the tank. The S. repens will REALLY appreciate it. Toss some form of root tabs under the S. repens and, if it isn't too messy/ too much trouble break the S. repens clumps up.
What kind of root tabs do you suggest? I'll move the light to the front a bit and see how that goes. Most of the S.Repens grew a couple sets of leaves just this week alone. I'm only assuming its because I started to get some nitrates finally due to my cycling. I have i think 2-3 clumps left that i kinda wanted to leave alone to put in the Mid-Ground. I'm loving these S.Repens though. its satisfying to see them grow.
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O+(Osmocote plus).. how deep is your substrate at the front?

Stock lightly and carry a big filter. - I don't have aquariums. I have ecosystems in a glass box. - Hygrophilaholic and hoarder of Anubias.
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Looking good so far. The tank looks nice without that rim.
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It's roughly 2 inches in the front. And kinda sloppily slopes up to nearly 4 in the back corners and about 3 in the mid rear.
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This is my tank today. Grabbed some newer more porous sponge prefilters for the intake. Removed the bubble wand crap and changed it to two smaller sand stone bubblers set in the back corners. Got a couple bunches of wisteria and I don't know the plant in the far right next to the anubias. I also filled the water level up to the brim, about a couple millimeters from overflowing.
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Day 14 on Fishless Cycling. I'm not sure whether or not i should listen to my LFS. I've read plenty on this forum that i should do PWC to lower my nitrites down. I did do a 25% WC last week and am very tempted to do another one. The guys at my LFS suggested not to change out any water at all til my nitrites go down. My ammonia goes from 2-4PPM down to 0 in less than 12 hours, my nitrites are off the charts and my nitrates are at about 80PPM.

One thing i have noticed, when i was testing my nitrites last week, the blue drops immediately changed to purple indicating high nitrites? When i tested it twice yesterday, the blue drops stayed blue and would change to purple as time passes. Is this a good indicator that my nitrites are lowering? Should i do some PWC?
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Your nitrites are lowering. I did absolutely zero water changes during one of my fishless cycle. I did do a 90% water change at the end. You can vary the method as much as you want. At the end of the cycle, you want to be able to dose 2-4ppm ammonia and 24 hours later have 0 ammonia and nitrite. That is when you do a massive water change and check your levels. Then add fish.
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Your nitrites are lowering. I did absolutely zero water changes during one of my fishless cycle. I did do a 90% water change at the end. You can vary the method as much as you want. At the end of the cycle, you want to be able to dose 2-4ppm ammonia and 24 hours later have 0 ammonia and nitrite. That is when you do a massive water change and check your levels. Then add fish.
Alright I'll wait it out. I was leaning towards PWC's, but this reassures me that I'm on the right track. Thanks for the quick reply.
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