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post #16 of 241 (permalink) Old 05-02-2009, 07:55 PM
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Looks nice. A bit jealous here, as All I have is a tank with water and substrate so far, no time to get plants yet. And for fish I'm gonna have to drive up to St Augustine. (Yay).
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Looking great! Now just need some babies to put in there.
Hey Tim, what are you a trouble maker?
Like they need an excuse,,, my rabbit fish are at it again. This is today, right now, in the office low tech. I probably should start a journal for each flipping tank.







I've pulled black b@t#h and am currently dripping from the kitchen tank into a 5g bucket with her in it. Now I'll have to watch the water daily as I'm jump starting the stocking. At least I've got a good supply of usable water with the R O system holding 105 gallons ready to go at 78 degrees.

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They laid on your magnet? Give them horny little Angels some egg laying surfaces man. At least it will be easy to pull them out. I'm with the trouble maker, you're just shy of some babies in that tank.

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The 55g is indeed under a counter in the kitchen. The 110g will be at the opposite end in the kitchen as well. The Kitchen is 16' 6" w X 23' long with counter top and appliances down one wall and three sets of louvered double doors on the other. The first two sets are pantry / closets, the third set is to the home office and access to the back porch.
I hope the floor is well supported. Is the kitchen on a slab, or??? I very smoothly negotiated setting up the 20G QT tank today. It's in my garage office. No way it was going in the kitchen, but she did let me move my stuff to make room for it. At least I'll have one to look at while I'm working now. I have a 42G Oceanic Hex to setup next. Any experience with that size tank and Angels? Seems like there should be room for a breeding pair, and I may just keep it for that.

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Hey Steve, house is single story concrete all the way. 10g per adult is a good rule of thumb. 42g would make a great planted low tech breeder though.

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Dang!!! You found out my middle name!!! I try so hard to keep it a secret too!!! And it looks like I am not the only one. LOL So are you going to pull the magnet, or leave it and see what happens? You have more tanks now, it is time to start filling them with fish!!
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Check your water paramaters and you might be surprised as to how soon you can add fish. I have always added fish same day and never had a problem.

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eggs

Hey Tim,
We went to dinner at a friends house tonight and just returned, 11:45PM. Spawn is intact because we removed Blackie this afternoon before leaving so its now only four angels in the tank with the parents being the two largest. We will leave the eggs in place and allow the hatch to occur if it's fertile and go from there. Three days after filling the soil sub tank has a fish in it.

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And where are the pics? LMAO Now that you found out my middle name I have to live up to it!! I have eggs here too. I hope both of ours make it this time! This is the third time for me.
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this is a great idea. i have had something like this in mind and i'm intersted to see how this develops.
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DIY of sorts and stocking

Using a power head as the sole filtration / circulation method and wanting to collect debris I thought about sponge filters but the Penguin 1140 has a cone shaped intake for UG tubes. With the soil sub I nixed the UG plates.
The 1140 pushes enough water for white water rafting too.
Filter floss and zip straps! Fits the low tech theme right? Cut a 6 1/2" strip long enough for 1 1/2 wraps and ta da!
Curbed the output fire nozzle like flow using extra spray bar and suction tube parts by drilling the suction sections and mounted four pieces on the discharge. The resulting spray bar flow is much more angel fish friendly being spread out. When fry are added young the larger surface area of the intake won't hold any swimming too close either



The last section creates good center tank surface ripple.


Company for 'BB' in the form of a young DD super veil that's been in quarantine since 1/19/09


I really like the sponge painted back round now that the tank is planted too.
It blends but being dull highlights plant color the way I had hoped.



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Looks like that filter idea is going to work great. With the way you are going, I wouldn't be surprised if these two don't end up being a pair and this tank ends up a breeding tank instead of a growout tank. This tank is looking really great!
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Changes happening quickly

Too many tanks at the moment with everything changing!
Water is already showing NO2 (nitrite) at 7 days wet.

Here's the track on my first soil sub tank so far.
Filled 4/29/09, 4/30/09 water set at 6dGH with Rex Griggs grumpy mix and KH with baking soda to 3dKH then planted. Decided to bridge the plants from my high light injected tanks with some ferts.= CSM+B, Excel 20mL, Fe .6ppm, Nutrifin Cycle 40mL. Right or wrong made the additions, I'll see how it goes.
5/1/09 more plants.
5/2/09 Due to breeding activities and egg eating behavior an Angel was moved into this tank so first fish in. 10dGH (hardness climbed 4dGH), 3dKH, pH 7.0, NH4 (ammonia) <.25, NO2 (nitrite) 0.0, NO3 (nitrate) 0.0, PO4 (phosphate) <2ppm. Dose NO3 17.3ppm, Leaf Zone 20mL.
5/3/09 30g WC, 2dKH, 2dGH. Reset water to 6dGH, 3dKH, Fe .6ppm, NO3 16ppm, CSM+B, Nutrifin Cycle 30mL. Add 15 grass shrimp, Medium DD B angel. Add a small air driven sponge filter.
5/4/09 NH4 <.25ppm, NO2 0.0, NO3 15ppm
5/5/09 NH4 >.50ppm, NO2 0.0 (WC on living room tank and no time for this one as its 11:30pm) Remove Medium DD B angel.
5/6/09 NH4 <.50 (dropped), NO2 <.25 (reading)
40g WC 4dGH, 2.5dKH, NO3 <10ppm, NH4 <.25, NO2 <.25
Reset water to 6dGH, 3dKH eliminated fert. dosing but added Nutrifin Cycle 40mL.

Bacopa stems have grown 1 1/2 - 2" and produced 3-4 leaf sets per stem. The other plants look OK with minor new growth. Added more java moss. Introduced duck weed and terrestrial plants, 2 Ivy stems and a green spider are draping roots into the water by the power head.







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With each new picture, I am liking that background more and more! The tank is really looking great.
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Update today on the settling in water issues. NO2 (nitrites) are here big time today! Tested the tank getting home from work and NO2 was >1.0ppm.
35g WC, 5 minute pump run and NO2 >.25 but not by much.
35g WC and it tested zero. Reset to 6dGH, 3dKH so now wait and see how fast it climbs again.
I've not been able to find any info on threshold limits for readings on NO2 or NH3 / NH+4 that are allowable with fish so my R O unit is on OT.

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