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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-01-2008, 05:38 AM Thread Starter
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G'day from Downunder,

I thought I would share this tank with you seeing how you have a "Low Tech" section. This tank started off as being my spare tank where I would keep my older large fish and a few plants that I didn't want in my display tanks but didn't want to part with either.
The tank is 120cm (4') x 37cm x 53cm that holds 200 litres. I think that converts to 45 UK Gallons or 55 US Gallons. (not a big fan of inches and gallons). It has a single T8 36W bulb over it and plain gravel. I think that works out to be 0.81 Watts per UK Gallon or 0.67 Watts per US Gallon. What ever it is I think it is certainly low light. Here's a picture of when I first started it up.


After a short while I started to notice how well the plants did in this tank even with the very low light levels. Eventually I donated the fish to my LFS and decided to clean it up a bit and try some more plants. Root feeding plants have been put in pots and seem to be doing well. Here are some current pictures, the tank has been like this for a few months and things seem to be thriving;





Some of my Favourite plants in here now are;
1. An Australian native Apontogen Tofus

2. Hygro Polysperma .. an old faithfull which I think grows best in low light

3. Mosses, Peacock & Flame

4. An Australian Native Fissidens, Berteroli


Even with this very low light level it seems to be going really well, it has become my favourite tank.
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-01-2008, 05:46 AM
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Beautiful tank. Maybe it'll hit home that you don't need high-light/high-tech to have a great tank setup.
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Your tank looks great. I'm a great proponent of root tabs. I used them for years with low light and inert gravel.

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Awesome tank. Do you use any co2 injection or carbon supplementation?

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My 55 gallon low tech now hi tech tank: Check it out!

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Beautiful tank. Maybe it'll hit home that you don't need high-light/high-tech to have a great tank setup.
I agree, good luck tellin that to the 4wpg T5 people, lol

Nice lookin tank FarCanal!!

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post #6 of 32 (permalink) Old 09-01-2008, 09:04 AM Thread Starter
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Beautiful tank. Maybe it'll hit home that you don't need high-light/high-tech to have a great tank setup.
Yeah that's a bit of a hard learned lesson for me. This tank is my favorite now and looks better than some of my higher light tanks! Not to mention being a squillion times easier to maintain.

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Your tank looks great. I'm a great proponent of root tabs. I used them for years with low light and inert gravel.
The pots started out as a bit of "Substrate Experimentation". Trying a few little experiments to see what worked best. All the ferns and mosses are tied to small little pieces of wood so I can remove them and gravel clean the substrate. This is my only tank that I still use a gravel cleaner on and it's actually good. Helps keep this tank spotless. I've also assumed the gravel maybe to thin and the pebble size to large for effective root tabs. I'm a fan of root tabs and use them in other tanks.

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Awesome tank. Do you use any co2 injection or carbon supplementation?

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Yes I use one of those Red Sea DIY kits recommended for 60L (small) tanks which does about 1 bubble every 3 seconds. The only think is I now use a inline diffuser as it's more shrimp friendly. I did this tank without CO2 for quite a while but find it much easier for algae control with CO2. Haven't had to clean the glass in months.

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I agree, good luck tellin that to the 4wpg T5 people, lol

Nice lookin tank FarCanal!!
Cheers Mate, looks like I've finally found some like minded people here. I'm a member of a few forums and get sick to death of hearing "My plants don't grow do I need more light?" .. drives me up the wall! I used to have the nickname of the Gremlin that hated Bright lights when in School .... must be rubbing off on my tanks as well. You're flogging a dead horse when telling some people that low light is easier to grow plants.

Gee I hope you guys don't mind the use of Aussie Slang?
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Aww you had my attention till you said you do CO2. lol Still a great looking tank.

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Aww you had my attention till you said you do CO2. lol Still a great looking tank.
Like I said, I've done it without CO2 but it's better with. Less Algae, more plant growth. I wouldn't have thought that a bit of sugar, yeast and water would make it "not low tech"??

Once I saw the difference even a small amount of CO2 makes I was not about to stop using it. You've got me wondering why anyone who is into aquatic plants would not use CO2?

Actually I should post the first tank I did, it was without CO2 but the light level was fractionally higher than 1 WPG (1.1WPG). It was a Java Fern only tank, no ferts, plain gravel, here's a pic of that one;

That tank wasn't as low maintenance as this current one. Had to clean the glass regularly ... I hate that these days.
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Your tank looks tons better than mine when it was at .67wpg(US)! It goes to show that with proper planning, you can make a great tank with most any equipment.
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In pic 4.("An Australian Native Fissidens, Berteroli"). I don't recognize the fissiden, Do you have other pictures of it? I love fissiden and am always on the look out for more. What is it's growing habit? Want to sell some?

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Love the Bolbitis, so nice and compact. Mine tends to grow huge.

Low light and CO2 is a good combination, this tank shows it.
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How just how? I'm gonna watch this thread closely

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In pic 4.("An Australian Native Fissidens, Berteroli"). I don't recognize the fissiden, Do you have other pictures of it? I love fissiden and am always on the look out for more. What is it's growing habit? Want to sell some?
Crystalview - It is a very interesting plant indeed, one that seems to have been lost to the hobby and only recently rediscovered. I just checked for the proper spelling and it's FISSIDENS BERTERO1 Here's a link to the Australian Forum where it's rediscovery unfolded.
http://aquariumlife.com.au/showthread.php?t=5524
You will need to register to read it but it will be worth it to read that alone. My name on that Forum is BrianS. And if you want, someone else has just recently discovered something that looks very similar, it could be the same plant. Here's that thread
http://aquariumlife.com.au/showthread.php?t=8670
As for selling, it's being distrubuted amongst members on that site but I don't think anyone is selling it commercially. You may want to float a thread there to see if anyone can export some. I'm not sure what's involved with exporting plants.

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Love the Bolbitis, so nice and compact. Mine tends to grow huge.

Low light and CO2 is a good combination, this tank shows it.
I've been keeping Bolbitis for around 6 years now. For me it had always stayed quite small and just seemed to grow thicker. Since I've upgrade my filters and put this plant in higher current it has started growing bigger fronds. It's very thick in there and a bit of a surprise just how regularly I have to thin it out considering the light.

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I'm surprised, in a very pleasant way, just how well the plants are growing in this tank. I never initially had any intention on having it as a scape but patience has paid off. I'm looking at my other tanks now and wondering if I'm doing them all wrong. It's my favourite tank now and I don't want to change anything for fear of disturbing it.

I've recently added another small Val species to see how it will go, it was collected here in Australia and maybe Val Gracilis (sp?). I would love it to be a good low light ground cover, time will tell.
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I googled your Fissidens and they are on the endangered list for NZ not sure if they are endangered in AUS. I did find a list of fissidens that I knew nothing about. Not all are submerged varieties.

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/annua...ed_taxon=79833

In the pic they showed they say that Fissidens Strictus is very similar



I will now go and read Aquariumlife to see what is says

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Wow. Very very nice. When I had 1wpg, all I could maintain was Java Moss. CO2 seems to be the answer!

In the second pic down, what is that very fern-y looking plant filling in the right side of the tank?
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