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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old 04-28-2006, 05:59 PM Thread Starter
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So...what do you think?

I've been making plans to create a 10 gallon planted and divided tank for two male betta spendens. But first I want to run it by the experts here on this forum.

The plants I would like to use are dwarf hairgrass for the foreground, heteranthera zosterifolia for the back ground and broad leaf saggitaria in the middle.

The tank will be a regular glass 10 gallon. For lighting I will use 2 Coralife Mini Freshwater Aqualights that include 2 9 watt 6700k lamps each. This would give me 3.6 watts/gallon. For subtrate I would like to use Carib Sea Eco Complete and a layer of sand in the foreground for the hairgrass. I'll be using two sponge filters and a Hydor Theo 50 watt heater. I'll also be supplementing with Seachem Flourish and Flourish Excel.

My water is quite hard with a GH of 150 ppm, KH 180 ppm and pH out of tap at 7.4. The pH, once it's been aerated and added to my 55 gall., reads 8.0, so I think I have a lot of dissolved CO2 in my tap water.

Will I be able to get away with no CO2? Do you reccomend I use different plants? Do you reccomend a different subtrate or additives? What do you guys think?
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Everything looks good to me. I think that with the excel addition you will not need co2. I don't think you will need any sand for the hairgrass, eco has some "sandy" particles as well as the larger particles. Lileaopsis grows great in mine.
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On the other hand, if this is your first low tech set up, I'd go with something simplier. While dwarf hairgrass heteranthera zosterifolia can be grown in a low tech tank, they are a couple of the more difficult ones.

I don't know anything about the lights your using but 3+ watts a gallon with only excel is pushing it. You'll have to dose a lot and do lots of water changes and you get higher and higher maintance. And will probably be fighting algae.

The eco is good stuff. But if you want sucess the first time out, I keep the lighting 2-2 1/2 watts and choose plants that do well for that amount of light. Then you can dose a couple times a week or when you feel you need it. Lileaopsis could make a good sub for the hair grass. I also have it my potting soil tank and it's very pretty and does well. And Sags go crazy in my 180 and I have similar water parameters as yours.

Good luck and keep us posted,
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I don't think you will need any sand for the hairgrass, eco has some "sandy" particles as well as the larger particles. Lileaopsis grows great in mine.
Ok, I'm glad I can throe out the sand. I wasn't exactly thrilled about adding it since I don't want to have to deal with the possible anaerobic bacteria.

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But if you want sucess the first time out, I keep the lighting 2-2 1/2 watts and choose plants that do well for that amount of light. Then you can dose a couple times a week or when you feel you need it.
Yes, as this is a small aquarium and I don't want to spend a bundle on it, I think I'll go ahead and get to researching some different lighting options that will put me in that reccomended range. Keeping it simple will be a better option for my first planted tank.

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Lileaopsis could make a good sub for the hair grass. I also have it my potting soil tank and it's very pretty and does well. And Sags go crazy in my 180 and I have similar water parameters as yours.
What variety of Lileaopsis do you reccomend, since there are several? And will the variety you reccomend stay reasonably low for my 10 gallon? Good to hear that the sags will do well in similar water. I'll stick with that one.

Back to the drawing board!
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How are you dividing the tank? Because if you're using a straight up sheet of acrylic or whatever then theoretically you're going to have to filter both sides of the tank, and unless you're using some sort of mesh or net, you're going to have to buy double the filters and probably heaters too. Not exactly low budget. It's a nice idea, but im considering whether it would be worth it for you in the long run. If you really want two male bettas, why not just add one betta to this 10 gallon with a few other fish, the buy a seperate little nano for the other betta.

Good luck anyhow!
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