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That plant isn't aquatic, it will do well with its roots being in water but the stems and leaves won't live submersed, so it will do well in a riparium or terrarium/vivarium set up. It's a type of begonia.
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There's a sponge and a cartridge in the old tank. I've changed that cartridge 5 or 6 times this year with no problems. Problably due to the fact that theres just a guppy, a pleco, and a shrimp in there... Along with a lot of generic plant. This should basically be the same. The several month old cartridge is now floating in the new tank with the new filter running.
Cool, if it's got old sponge material in it still then that will definitely prevent a cycle when the cartridge is replaced.
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Am I doing the math wrong here? I finally measured this aquarium and I get 12x22x30=7,920 cubic inches= 120 gal...
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It's actually a 35g, the same tank I have. You'll need far more light than 15W if you want to grow anything more than crazy low light plants. I have 2x24W T5HO lighting in my tank and I'm medium light. Let's get some more info, what are your actual fish plans, what kind of filter is that? If you can give us some more info people on here will give you some great ideas on how to achieve what you want, rather than you having to do trial and error figuring out what you want and what works for you.
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Haha, had a little too much wine last night and was using some online conversion.

Anyway, I've been posting from work since my home Internet is out, so I got some stuff wrong. Upon further inspection the day-glo bulb is 20w. I added the 18w aqua-glo last night as well.

My original plan was to go low light, low tech, rip/viv. I wanted a section at the top for some semi aquatics. However I stupidly went HOB and this sucker is big. To have it down at the water line would take up considerable space. Should have gone cannister! Oh well, I'm flexible.

Fish plans: I figured I'd get something tough and fairly small. After some research, I settled on a few zebra danios. I'm thinking 5-ish. Other than that I might add my current pleco or get some other similar, but smaller.

I love inverts, so I planned on having shrimp as well. Still researching to make sure I'm not overcrowding, but I was thinking roughly 10.
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That plant isn't aquatic, it will do well with its roots being in water but the stems and leaves won't live submersed, so it will do well in a riparium or terrarium/vivarium set up. It's a type of begonia.
Bummer, they were selling it as aquatic. Jerks.

Oh well. I pulled it all out this morning and gave it a nice soggy spot in the window. While I was pulling and inspecting this morning I noticed some dark fuzz on one of my Anubias. Now that I've been searching the forums, it appears to be BBA. It is big enough, it had to have been there when I bought it... I just didn't notice.



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Tetra whisper EX45. I removed the carbon pouch and replaced it with raw filter material.

I also got a decent pic of one of my unknown shrimp this morning.
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However I stupidly went HOB and this sucker is big. To have it down at the water line would take up considerable space. Should have gone cannister!
An internal filter is another option for a riparium set up. I have a 37 gallon riparium that I'm using a Fluval U2 internal filter in.
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Yeah, they do that crap.

On the anubias you can treat the bba with excel (but I would treat the plant out of the tank since shrimp are sensitive to excel) and cut off the heavily affected areas.
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Thanks. I'll clean up that plant today.

I've been researching the fauna I'd like to get. Frankly, I'm more excited about inverts than the fish. After further research, the Danios might be a little too high strung for me so I might go to tetras.

On the inverts side... I WANT THEM ALL! ... but I'll just start with the easiest and most forgiving which seams to be the cherry shrimp. I'd love to add in some others, like the bamboo shrimp and stuff but I'd be smart to wait till I'm more experienced.
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Just be aware that getting cherries will limit your fish options. If the shrimp can fit in the fish's mouth, it will likely get eaten. I'd stick with amanos, I also find them more interesting than cherries too.
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Just be aware that getting cherries will limit your fish options. If the shrimp can fit in the fish's mouth, it will likely get eaten. I'd stick with amanos, I also find them more interesting than cherries too.
Yeah, I thought about that. those bright red guys in my black and green aquarium would have to stand out. I have PLENTY of hiding paces and tons of vertical space. I planned on getting a few different kinds. We'll see how each does.
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If I could start over I would just do shrimp and nerite snails... I would have never bought all the different tetras, bettas, white cloud minnows I have. The only fish I'm attached to are my gardneri killifish, dwarf puffers, and whiptail catfish.
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yeah, I'm not too interested in fish, but I have SO MUCH VERTICAL SPACE.

If funds were unlimited and I were starting over, I'd be tempted to do a giant moss wall and go all inverts. For now, I'll just have a handful of tetras or something to keep things interesting and amuse my kids.

I just found this thread on light.This clears up a lot of questions for me and I guess means that I'm very low light. I think I'm roughly 1w per gallon and all that vertical space doesn't help at all. I'm broke though, so I guess I'll deal with it for now.
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OK...
After a few days of obsessively reading this forum, I've determined that I have no idea what I'm doing That's not horrible though. I love learning new stuff.

My 40G is still working on its first cycle. I haven't seen any bumps in nitrates really yet. I've realized that my lighting is pretty pathetic... like everyone was telling me. I think I'll leave it as it is for now in terms of plants and see if I can just keep it alive and healthy for a while.


The good news is though, I have a 10gal that will be free soon for another project! I've been researching and I've already got plenty of light. I'll probably try a little fancier in terms of aesthetics, but still low tech. Purely shrimp in that one though.
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If you don't want to spend the money on better lighting on this one what I would do is have a lot more hardscape, look for tall pieces of driftwood and then use mosses, ferns, anubias and the like which should still grow slowly with your light. Then with the 10g do more higher lighting and fancier plants. Maybe with the 35g focus more on the fish.
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OK... Someone educate me on filters. This tanks is CLOUDY and I want to make sure I'm still on track.

Nitrates at 5, Ammonia at .002.

I read in a couple places that the charcoal in some filters is unnecessary/bad. I have removed mine and put in strait filter material. Is this correct? Am I going down the wrong road here?
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