what do I need? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-20-2005, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
aspramn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 82
Question what do I need?

I am going to be setting up a 55 gal . planted tank and am a bit confused about what lighting product I need...So speak slowly..lol

These are the plants I am planning on putting in so far ( A low/med tank):

back:
wysteria
red flame
corkscrew

Middle:
creeping rush

Front:
javamoss
Cuban broad leaf chain

I am confused about when you all talk about the lighting "tech" part of it, is there a particular "ligh bulb holder" I need to get?
Where do I get?
Etc...

Thank You
Amber
aspramn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-20-2005, 11:51 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Rex Grigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Portland Orygun
Posts: 9,600
Do you have the light(s) that came with the tank?

If not are you going to have a wooden canopy?

If not do you want one?

Take a look at www.ahsupply.com. The 2x55 watt kit would be perfect. They also sell some nice basic enclosures for holding the kits.
Rex Grigg is offline  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
aspramn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 82
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Grigg
Do you have the light(s) that came with the tank?

If not are you going to have a wooden canopy?

If not do you want one?

Take a look at www.ahsupply.com. The 2x55 watt kit would be perfect. They also sell some nice basic enclosures for holding the kits.

I am getting the tank next week, this is why I want to know befor I go buy a "kit" , like what walmart sells with the tank and hood /light and filter deal..Because I know I need a different filter than what comes with it, so with the lights I want to figure out the same thing..So I want to make it cost effective ....

Just triing to get a plan befor I spend any actual money yet, so I don't find myself needing something completly different and wasting money.

hth

Amber
aspramn is offline  
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 01:36 AM
jgc
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 944
Sorry about my first reply. So much about these tanks is personal preference. I will try this again. If you have not already bought a tank, try not to limit yourself to the standard 55 gallon. While shallow tanks are great for showing fish off, a lot of people think they are harder to plant because of lack of depth (not much depth for foreground, mid-ground and background planting). You might find, after thinking of it a bit it is worth going to a 75 gallon, or that a 30 gallon cube might show off your plants better. I personally chose a 58 (which is essentially a 75 with 12 inches cut off). There are tons of opinions and options - do a search on the board too.

As for light, the rule of thumb is about 2 watts per gallon for what you are talking about I think. Some lights are more efficient than others aesthetics, diy skills, and personal preference are all important here. I have dropped almost $400 into my main light (a 250 watt metal halide pendent and at the moment am lighting my tank with an odno shop light that cost a whopping $40 . No they are not comparable I still love the hqi pendent for various aesthetic reasons but I think the plants could care less. If it was not in my living room, I probably would not either.

Actually have two shop lights on the tank, one ondo,one nomral output. They are pumping arround 170 watts - but are 4ft bulbs over a 3 ft tank. Your guess is as good as mine on the watt/gallon I actually have.
---
same stuff holds true for filters. I could say get a Eheim 2217. No doubt in my mind you would be happy. Others will say get a xp3 (more flow, maybe a little louders). (looks like a good current thread and heated discussion is happening on those two today (Eheim Classic 2217 Vs. Rena Filstar XP3) On the otherhand, perhaps you would rather spend $30 and use a mattenfilter.
---
same goes for substraite as well I guess - but will try not to talk about mineralized topsoil... Each of these ideas can save money - sometimes. On the otherhand, you probably would not regret getting the good stuff, and sometimes people do regret cutting corners.

58 gallon oceanic, 250w 10k pendent, pressurized co2, eheim pimp #179 - 2217 and diffuser
jgc is offline  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 01:44 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Rex Grigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Portland Orygun
Posts: 9,600
I second that. If you don't already have the 55 gallon then look at a different size tank.
Rex Grigg is offline  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
aspramn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: minnesota
Posts: 82
So as far as the tank are you suggesting I find one that is deeper than the standard 55 gal.?

Thank You guys for all the helpfull info!

Amber
aspramn is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 04:33 PM
jng
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Norwood, MA
Posts: 32
To avoid possible confusion, I believe depth in this case, means the distance from front to back.
jng is offline  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-21-2005, 05:53 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
Rex Grigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Portland Orygun
Posts: 9,600
Quote:
Originally Posted by jng
To avoid possible confusion, I believe depth in this case, means the distance from front to back.

That is correct. The next size 4' long tank is a 75 gallon. It's 18" front to back. Then you go to the 90 gallon which is 18" wide and 25" tall. Then if you want a monster you can go with the 120 gallon which is 24" front to back and 25" tall.

There are also some really nice 3" long tank sizes.
Rex Grigg is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome